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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 6789484" data-attributes="member: 6802951">Actually it takes a greater amount of strength to effectively use a historical Rapier&nbsp; than Longsword. The Longsword blade isn't much longer but the increased moment that two hands upon the long hilt can exert means that it requires much less strength to control than the rapier of basket-hilted broadsword, where similar amount of leverage has to be exerted with just a single hand - particularly if your opponent is not also using a rapier. Athleticism is also extremely useful in the added movement of the rapier-fencing style.This isn't saying Longswords should also be finesse: although less strength is required, the greater the leverage that you can exert, the faster your sword accelerates into a dangerous blow, adjusts direction mid-swing and the harder it hits, the more chance you have of hitting in D&amp;D style combat.Hence why I have trouble visualising weapons like the Scottish broadsword as finesse.&nbsp;The purpose of them when used in a defensive manner is the same as a shield: to intercept blows before they hit you. They are just generally less effective at it. The advantages are that its more socially acceptable to walk around town with a cape, or a dagger alongside your sword, than carrying a military shield.The issue with talking about Battlemaster maneuvers is that that is only one subclass of one of the options that the OP was considering. Much of the current discussion is regarding Rogues for example.&nbsp;Again, what if they're not a Battlemaster?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 6789484, member: 6802951"] Actually it takes a greater amount of strength to effectively use a historical Rapier than Longsword. The Longsword blade isn't much longer but the increased moment that two hands upon the long hilt can exert means that it requires much less strength to control than the rapier of basket-hilted broadsword, where similar amount of leverage has to be exerted with just a single hand - particularly if your opponent is not also using a rapier. Athleticism is also extremely useful in the added movement of the rapier-fencing style. This isn't saying Longswords should also be finesse: although less strength is required, the greater the leverage that you can exert, the faster your sword accelerates into a dangerous blow, adjusts direction mid-swing and the harder it hits, the more chance you have of hitting in D&D style combat. Hence why I have trouble visualising weapons like the Scottish broadsword as finesse. The purpose of them when used in a defensive manner is the same as a shield: to intercept blows before they hit you. They are just generally less effective at it. The advantages are that its more socially acceptable to walk around town with a cape, or a dagger alongside your sword, than carrying a military shield. The issue with talking about Battlemaster maneuvers is that that is only one subclass of one of the options that the OP was considering. Much of the current discussion is regarding Rogues for example. Again, what if they're not a Battlemaster? [/QUOTE]

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