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<blockquote data-quote="dmnqwk" data-source="post: 6791026" data-attributes="member: 6804204"><p>The sCAG has a listing for Rogue Archetype - Swashbuckler but it doesn't approach this utility.</p><p></p><p>As for the restricting to Light Armour, that sounds fine. Someone pointed out earlier that adding 2 makes it worse than a shield, so instead let's follow 5th editions love of 1d4 modifiers (thanks Bless and Bane!):</p><p></p><p>Swashbuckle: As a Bonus action you may begin parrying with your off-hand weapon. Until the start of your next round you may add 1d4 to your armour class. If this causes the attack to miss, you may use your reaction to make one melee attack against the foe. You must be wearing light armour and using a finesse weapon in your off-hand.</p><p></p><p>It's hard coming up with wording sometimes to "beat the lawyers" because what I wouldn't like to see is:</p><p>a) someone claiming they use a shield in their main hand and stacking these together. Those people should not be playing 5th edition!</p><p>b) someone hoping to let this bypass critical hits (I would rather it was 1d4 deducted per attack, but that Crawford guy already said cutting words reduces crits, and this doing the same is too powerful.)</p><p></p><p>If you want to use this, but not as a fighting style, you could turn it into a feat with the following:</p><p>Swashbuckle - Req Dex 13+</p><p>You were trained in the art of active protection, allowing yourself to wield an off-hand weapon for protection, instead of offense.</p><p>When you take the attack or dodge action, you begin wielding your off-hand weapon in a defensive manner, parrying any incoming blows. When an attack hits you, you may add 1d4 to your armour class. If this causes it to miss instead, you may use your reaction to perform an attack of opportunity with your main hand.</p><p>If you use your off-hand weapon to attack you lose the effect of this feat until the start of your next turn.</p><p></p><p>The key difference is the fighting style costs a bonus action, while the feat merely lets you use it for free and saves a bonus action, so Rogues who take the feat can be like "I'm going to stab you with my Rapier, then wield my Dagger awesomely in defense until you fail to hit me and I get to stab you a second time. oh yeah!"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dmnqwk, post: 6791026, member: 6804204"] The sCAG has a listing for Rogue Archetype - Swashbuckler but it doesn't approach this utility. As for the restricting to Light Armour, that sounds fine. Someone pointed out earlier that adding 2 makes it worse than a shield, so instead let's follow 5th editions love of 1d4 modifiers (thanks Bless and Bane!): Swashbuckle: As a Bonus action you may begin parrying with your off-hand weapon. Until the start of your next round you may add 1d4 to your armour class. If this causes the attack to miss, you may use your reaction to make one melee attack against the foe. You must be wearing light armour and using a finesse weapon in your off-hand. It's hard coming up with wording sometimes to "beat the lawyers" because what I wouldn't like to see is: a) someone claiming they use a shield in their main hand and stacking these together. Those people should not be playing 5th edition! b) someone hoping to let this bypass critical hits (I would rather it was 1d4 deducted per attack, but that Crawford guy already said cutting words reduces crits, and this doing the same is too powerful.) If you want to use this, but not as a fighting style, you could turn it into a feat with the following: Swashbuckle - Req Dex 13+ You were trained in the art of active protection, allowing yourself to wield an off-hand weapon for protection, instead of offense. When you take the attack or dodge action, you begin wielding your off-hand weapon in a defensive manner, parrying any incoming blows. When an attack hits you, you may add 1d4 to your armour class. If this causes it to miss instead, you may use your reaction to perform an attack of opportunity with your main hand. If you use your off-hand weapon to attack you lose the effect of this feat until the start of your next turn. The key difference is the fighting style costs a bonus action, while the feat merely lets you use it for free and saves a bonus action, so Rogues who take the feat can be like "I'm going to stab you with my Rapier, then wield my Dagger awesomely in defense until you fail to hit me and I get to stab you a second time. oh yeah!" [/QUOTE]
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