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<blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 6791267" data-attributes="member: 6775477"><p>You've misunderstood what I mean by "trap option;" everything has an opportunity cost. If you hold a dagger in your off hand and explain it as your parrying dagger (because you don't have the Feat), you are giving up the use of a shield (assuming you are proficient). If you take the feat and use a dagger, you gain +1 AC and about +2 damage per round, as opposed to +1 to hit and damage on ALL attacks (from an ability score increase), and +1 AC if you are a Dex based character. THAT is a trap option, because you've given up more than you would have otherwise gained. That's not to say that there aren't edge cases where you don't lose so much, but for most character's it's going to be a bad choice.</p><p></p><p>I do not feel that you should always take the optimal choice. I do, however, detest that 5E discourages (mechanically) a historically accurate fighting style. Having done stage combat, I know that it's easier to use 1 sword than sword and dagger, but I also know that 2 swords is MUCH harder. This is why in my games, I allow a 1d8 weapon to be used with a light 1d4 weapon with TWF. You are of course welcome to do whatever you want in your games.</p><p></p><p> Unless you want to play an elf <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shiroiken, post: 6791267, member: 6775477"] You've misunderstood what I mean by "trap option;" everything has an opportunity cost. If you hold a dagger in your off hand and explain it as your parrying dagger (because you don't have the Feat), you are giving up the use of a shield (assuming you are proficient). If you take the feat and use a dagger, you gain +1 AC and about +2 damage per round, as opposed to +1 to hit and damage on ALL attacks (from an ability score increase), and +1 AC if you are a Dex based character. THAT is a trap option, because you've given up more than you would have otherwise gained. That's not to say that there aren't edge cases where you don't lose so much, but for most character's it's going to be a bad choice. I do not feel that you should always take the optimal choice. I do, however, detest that 5E discourages (mechanically) a historically accurate fighting style. Having done stage combat, I know that it's easier to use 1 sword than sword and dagger, but I also know that 2 swords is MUCH harder. This is why in my games, I allow a 1d8 weapon to be used with a light 1d4 weapon with TWF. You are of course welcome to do whatever you want in your games. Unless you want to play an elf ;) [/QUOTE]
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