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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Slinger01" data-source="post: 2744491" data-attributes="member: 39027"><p>I have found that the ability to fly at tenth was not very useful when in dungeons or underground, in tight places, or anywere in which the ceiling is low. Plus it's tenth level for god sake. By tenth level most PCs have found plenty of ways around problems that flight might be a benefit for. I am speaking as both a player and a DM who has played and ran a Raptorean in games. Remember that thier wings are easy to hit. Plus wing span plays into the tight quarters thing. I realy can't see were the overland movement is that big a deal. Most of the time players are walking they would have to slow down to stay with their party, so to the monk and barbarian. What about the palladin and his mount? Wouldn't you have to slow down since mounts tend to be faster then the same type animal. I don't see the flight as being that big a deal. Its a benefit, but come on what about the major bonuses of immune to sleep spells or enchantments of elves? Anyway thats my view....</p></blockquote><p></p>