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<blockquote data-quote="drdevoid" data-source="post: 528586" data-attributes="member: 5356">Here's a question for you- is the take down implied in a pin during a grapple. Is there any benefit in taking Improved Trip then?Well, anyway, I got some amazing rolls (we're supposed to for this game) and after pouring over the stuff I have I tried on this for size. I think this guy could wrestle with bears. Hell, if he's a half-orc I may name him that. What do you think:As Half-Orc (Brb1, Ftr5)Wrestles-with-BearsStr 20 (+5)- raging 24 (+7)Dex 14 (+2)Con 14 (+2)- raging 18 (+4)Int 10 (+0)Wis 12 (+1)Cha 12 (+1)Improved Unarmed Strike (CL: 1st)Improved Grapple (Ftr Bonus CL: 2nd)Power Attack (Ftr Bonus CL: 3rd)Close Quarters Fighting (CL: 3rd)Improved Bull Rush (Ftr Bonus CL: 5th)Clever Wrestling (CL: 6th)OR as HumanThorin Blackblood (Brb1, Ftr5)Str 18 (+4)- raging 22 (+6)Dex 14 (+2)Con 14 (+2)- raging 18 (+4)Int 12 (+1)Wis 12 (+1)Cha 14 (+2)Improved Unarmed Strike (CL: 1st)Improved Grapple (Racial Bonus CL: 1st)Power Attack (Ftr Bonus CL: 2nd)Improved Bull Rush (Ftr Bonus CL: 3rd)Close Quarters Fighting (CL: 3rd)Expert Tatician (Ftr Bonus CL: 5th)Clever Wrestling (CL: 6th)Any other opinions? I'm leaning towards the human version as it stands. Am I missing something really big? Is Expertise and Improved Trip worth it? I like how Combat Reflexes or Expert Tactician works with the wrestling motif. Other feats? I still need to check out OA.What's the opinion on skills- should I bother with Escape Artist as a cross class?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="drdevoid, post: 528586, member: 5356"] Here's a question for you- is the take down implied in a pin during a grapple. Is there any benefit in taking Improved Trip then? Well, anyway, I got some amazing rolls (we're supposed to for this game) and after pouring over the stuff I have I tried on this for size. I think this guy could wrestle with bears. Hell, if he's a half-orc I may name him that. What do you think: As Half-Orc (Brb1, Ftr5) Wrestles-with-Bears Str 20 (+5)- raging 24 (+7) Dex 14 (+2) Con 14 (+2)- raging 18 (+4) Int 10 (+0) Wis 12 (+1) Cha 12 (+1) Improved Unarmed Strike (CL: 1st) Improved Grapple (Ftr Bonus CL: 2nd) Power Attack (Ftr Bonus CL: 3rd) Close Quarters Fighting (CL: 3rd) Improved Bull Rush (Ftr Bonus CL: 5th) Clever Wrestling (CL: 6th) OR as Human Thorin Blackblood (Brb1, Ftr5) Str 18 (+4)- raging 22 (+6) Dex 14 (+2) Con 14 (+2)- raging 18 (+4) Int 12 (+1) Wis 12 (+1) Cha 14 (+2) Improved Unarmed Strike (CL: 1st) Improved Grapple (Racial Bonus CL: 1st) Power Attack (Ftr Bonus CL: 2nd) Improved Bull Rush (Ftr Bonus CL: 3rd) Close Quarters Fighting (CL: 3rd) Expert Tatician (Ftr Bonus CL: 5th) Clever Wrestling (CL: 6th) Any other opinions? I'm leaning towards the human version as it stands. Am I missing something really big? Is Expertise and Improved Trip worth it? I like how Combat Reflexes or Expert Tactician works with the wrestling motif. Other feats? I still need to check out OA. What's the opinion on skills- should I bother with Escape Artist as a cross class? [/QUOTE]

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