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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 2343070" data-attributes="member: 9213">See i read that &quot;horror movie&quot; bit an review somewhere, so youre not saying anything new. For the encounter on the docks and at the apt where Bats first runs into Scarecrow it works. But the fight scenes are poorly shot from the get go (including the stuff at the LOS HQ and the final fight between Batman and Ras' on the monorail was just awful.&nbsp; It's as simple as this and it has nothing to do with &quot;superhero movie&quot; fights. When I see someone throw a punch or a kick, I expect to see that puchh or kick make contact or see why it didnt make contact. So seriously, I &quot;GET&quot; what Nolan was trying to do, it was IMHO, done poorly. I study movie fights and for the most part I understand why things are shot a certain way and why things are framed the way that they are. It's not a &quot;twist&quot;, it's was a stylistic choice. I didnt expect a &quot;superhero movie&quot; fight in BOURNE IDENTITY, but that movie had one of the best hand to hand exchanges in movie in a good long while. The 1st BLADE which you could call a &quot;superhero type movie&quot; had pretty good fight scenes. Hell, even the brief hand to hand exchange in COLLATERAL was shot in a dark club, with Tom Cruise as a sociopathic hitman, you could still SEE what he was doing. He was DIRECT, QUICK and BRUTAL. The way that you would expect to SEE Batman fight. But I didnt get that, so for me the movie was less than satisfying.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 2343070, member: 9213"] See i read that "horror movie" bit an review somewhere, so youre not saying anything new. For the encounter on the docks and at the apt where Bats first runs into Scarecrow it works. But the fight scenes are poorly shot from the get go (including the stuff at the LOS HQ and the final fight between Batman and Ras' on the monorail was just awful. It's as simple as this and it has nothing to do with "superhero movie" fights. When I see someone throw a punch or a kick, I expect to see that puchh or kick make contact or see why it didnt make contact. So seriously, I "GET" what Nolan was trying to do, it was IMHO, done poorly. I study movie fights and for the most part I understand why things are shot a certain way and why things are framed the way that they are. It's not a "twist", it's was a stylistic choice. I didnt expect a "superhero movie" fight in BOURNE IDENTITY, but that movie had one of the best hand to hand exchanges in movie in a good long while. The 1st BLADE which you could call a "superhero type movie" had pretty good fight scenes. Hell, even the brief hand to hand exchange in COLLATERAL was shot in a dark club, with Tom Cruise as a sociopathic hitman, you could still SEE what he was doing. He was DIRECT, QUICK and BRUTAL. The way that you would expect to SEE Batman fight. But I didnt get that, so for me the movie was less than satisfying. [/QUOTE]

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