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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 1985614" data-attributes="member: 10397">They have better illusions and mind control. But Clerics have better defense, healing, and are better at information-gathering divinations (most mage divinations detect things rather than actually giving information).They are about equal in overall offense, and in detection-divination.Mages have teleportation, but Clerics can get that too (and especially if Domain Spontaneity is allowed...how that feat was ever printed is beyond me..)And of course the Cleric gets a bunch of self buffs that would be nearly uselss to a wizard, but to a Cleric with his already pretty good HP etc, can be very powerful.And then, the kicker comes in the fact that Clerics automatically know *all* their spells. A Wizard can theorically learn every spell on his list...but it costs. A Cleric gets them all automatically.And then of course the poor sorcerer gets only a tiny number of availble spells.If Clerics are worse spellcasters than Wizards it only by a tiny  margin. Not enough to offset the massive  non-spellcasting advantages of the Cleric.</blockquote>