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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 4869846" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>I have to dissent. I have it a seven...though the more I think on it, the more it deserves a six. I plan to go see it again this weekend with my kids, so perhaps my second take on it will be different. We'll see.</p><p></p><p>I don't think the movie flowed particularly well at all. Indeed, much of the film seemed to be a collection of vignettes, rather than a coherent whole.</p><p></p><p>The choice to leave out the major battle between the aurors and the Death Eaters at the end, left the death of HIM to be without any dramatic context. As one writer put it on the Qt3 forums, it was as if you decided to leave out the battle in the Chamber of Mazurbul, the running battle with the orcs, the chase through the mines of Moria and "You Shall not Pass" on the bridge...and instead just had the Balrog pick up Gandalf and lob him down a mine shaft.</p><p></p><p>Dead is dead, sure, but it loses its dramatic context - and that's what happens in this film.</p><p></p><p>There were choices the director and writer made in terms of how the movie flowed. Gone was the reasoning behind the novel being called the <em>Half-Blood Prince</em>. There was no growing and enthusiastic admiration of Harry for the HBP, only to discover at the end it was all Snape the Villain. Sure - Snape tells Harry who he is - but the context is wholly missing.</p><p></p><p>They could have done this film like the others showing classes of magic and the amazing discoveries Harry makes using the book. Instead, they opted to make the film about teen romance. You may agree with this choice, but I don't.</p><p></p><p>There were still elements of the movie I liked and I really do love this movie series. I have them all on DVD, but I went out and purchased the first four on BluRay last night (I already had OotP on Blu-Ray) for a HP fest this weekend.</p><p></p><p>Having watched <em>Philosopher’s Stone</em> last night on Blu-Ray, it's pretty clear that the structure of the novels - the fact that these are HOGWARTS tales, has been lost since OoTP and the loss continues in HBP. It certainly won't be present in <em>Deathly Hallows</em> - for the very good reason that that novel IS NOT a Hogwarts Tale at all and never was. Which is fine...for Deathly Hallows.</p><p></p><p>The problem is, OotP and HBP ARE Hogwarts' Tales. But that is not what we got to see. Instead, we got to see something else. I don't think the movies flow nearly as well as a consequence. I don't think they are as much fun to watch - and I don't think they tell the tale that most HP fans want to see.</p><p></p><p><em>Prisoner of Azkaban</em> is still far and away the best of the movie series. Because it balances the needs of the movie's meta-plot with the context of the tale taking place at Hogwarts. </p><p></p><p>While it might be that the final eighth film may end up as the best in terms of its visual "Magic Porn" in a hopefully epic portrayal of the Battle of Hogwarts...I no longer have much faith that this director will deliver on any of this. It might happen sure, but I wouldn't count on it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 4869846, member: 20741"] I have to dissent. I have it a seven...though the more I think on it, the more it deserves a six. I plan to go see it again this weekend with my kids, so perhaps my second take on it will be different. We'll see. I don't think the movie flowed particularly well at all. Indeed, much of the film seemed to be a collection of vignettes, rather than a coherent whole. The choice to leave out the major battle between the aurors and the Death Eaters at the end, left the death of HIM to be without any dramatic context. As one writer put it on the Qt3 forums, it was as if you decided to leave out the battle in the Chamber of Mazurbul, the running battle with the orcs, the chase through the mines of Moria and "You Shall not Pass" on the bridge...and instead just had the Balrog pick up Gandalf and lob him down a mine shaft. Dead is dead, sure, but it loses its dramatic context - and that's what happens in this film. There were choices the director and writer made in terms of how the movie flowed. Gone was the reasoning behind the novel being called the [I]Half-Blood Prince[/I]. There was no growing and enthusiastic admiration of Harry for the HBP, only to discover at the end it was all Snape the Villain. Sure - Snape tells Harry who he is - but the context is wholly missing. They could have done this film like the others showing classes of magic and the amazing discoveries Harry makes using the book. Instead, they opted to make the film about teen romance. You may agree with this choice, but I don't. There were still elements of the movie I liked and I really do love this movie series. I have them all on DVD, but I went out and purchased the first four on BluRay last night (I already had OotP on Blu-Ray) for a HP fest this weekend. Having watched [I]Philosopher’s Stone[/I] last night on Blu-Ray, it's pretty clear that the structure of the novels - the fact that these are HOGWARTS tales, has been lost since OoTP and the loss continues in HBP. It certainly won't be present in [I]Deathly Hallows[/I] - for the very good reason that that novel IS NOT a Hogwarts Tale at all and never was. Which is fine...for Deathly Hallows. The problem is, OotP and HBP ARE Hogwarts' Tales. But that is not what we got to see. Instead, we got to see something else. I don't think the movies flow nearly as well as a consequence. I don't think they are as much fun to watch - and I don't think they tell the tale that most HP fans want to see. [I]Prisoner of Azkaban[/I] is still far and away the best of the movie series. Because it balances the needs of the movie's meta-plot with the context of the tale taking place at Hogwarts. While it might be that the final eighth film may end up as the best in terms of its visual "Magic Porn" in a hopefully epic portrayal of the Battle of Hogwarts...I no longer have much faith that this director will deliver on any of this. It might happen sure, but I wouldn't count on it. [/QUOTE]
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