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<blockquote data-quote="LightPhoenix" data-source="post: 1463371" data-attributes="member: 115"><p>Well, for one thing I never said I wanted more at the end of the movie. I simply said there should have been more time.</p><p> </p><p>Second, a less predictable ending does not make the movie <em>any</em> more or less suspenseful. All it means is that you couldn't predict what was going to happen. That's not suspense or tension, that's shock. Similarly, cutting fifteen minutes out of the movie wouldn't either. That would just make it an equally low-tension movie, albeit shorter.</p><p> </p><p>Finally, I fail to see how a less predictable ending solves the problems with tension (which I agree exist) when you say "If you want to correct the problems with plausibility and tension (or more specifically, the lack of both), the end of the movie is very much the wrong place to do so."</p><p> </p><p>Tension is something that has to be built throughout the movie. I think you and I both agree on this. The way I feel is best to build tension is to make the audience respond to the characters. You don't get that with two-dimensional characters. The way to solve that is to make them more human.</p><p> </p><p>Now, the point where I think we differ is that I think the movie was relatively fine overall, length-wise. There were some pacing issues at points, but I don't think that fixing them would have changed the length of the movie significantly. They could have pared off a couple of minutes here and there, sure, but would it have changed anything? No, it would be, as I said before, simply a shorter movie with, according to you, problems with plausibility and tension.</p><p> </p><p>Since I don't think there is all too much that can be pared away with regards to the story, I think that more has to be added in. So the only way <em>I</em> see to make the characters have more depth is to allow them more screen time to develop that depth.</p><p> </p><p>But again, this is all simply my opinion on the matter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LightPhoenix, post: 1463371, member: 115"] Well, for one thing I never said I wanted more at the end of the movie. I simply said there should have been more time. Second, a less predictable ending does not make the movie [i]any[/i] more or less suspenseful. All it means is that you couldn't predict what was going to happen. That's not suspense or tension, that's shock. Similarly, cutting fifteen minutes out of the movie wouldn't either. That would just make it an equally low-tension movie, albeit shorter. Finally, I fail to see how a less predictable ending solves the problems with tension (which I agree exist) when you say "If you want to correct the problems with plausibility and tension (or more specifically, the lack of both), the end of the movie is very much the wrong place to do so." Tension is something that has to be built throughout the movie. I think you and I both agree on this. The way I feel is best to build tension is to make the audience respond to the characters. You don't get that with two-dimensional characters. The way to solve that is to make them more human. Now, the point where I think we differ is that I think the movie was relatively fine overall, length-wise. There were some pacing issues at points, but I don't think that fixing them would have changed the length of the movie significantly. They could have pared off a couple of minutes here and there, sure, but would it have changed anything? No, it would be, as I said before, simply a shorter movie with, according to you, problems with plausibility and tension. Since I don't think there is all too much that can be pared away with regards to the story, I think that more has to be added in. So the only way [i]I[/i] see to make the characters have more depth is to allow them more screen time to develop that depth. But again, this is all simply my opinion on the matter. [/QUOTE]
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