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<blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 1181378" data-attributes="member: 8704"><p>But see that was sort of the point of the whole movie, it wasn't supposed to look like a real fight it was supposed to look like a over the top movie fight from a old action movie, if the fight scenes were in any way realistic then it would of looked really silly, it's the flash and the glitz and the jumping around like a insane monkey that people want to see, real martial arts looks pretty poor in movies and the sword fighting scene would of ended with somebody running up behind Uma and sticking a sword in her 30 seconds into it. Not to mention the fact that this movie was meant to look like a <strong>bad</strong> 70's movie, there is a good chance they intentionally went way way overboard with it. </p><p> </p><p>Going into this movie and saying that any thing about it wasn't realistic enough really misses the point here, it's supposed to be in the movie world not the real world, it's supposed to be corney and goofy, they intentionally left mistakes and plot loopholes in the fim because that's how the films this was taken from were. As I've said before they should of dubbed it with bad voices and out of sync with the movie, them speaking poor Japanese added to the whole effect for me. The fact that the sword fight was so over the top and unreal was also a big part of the fun. </p><p> </p><p>All the stuff you didn't like is stuff they did intentionally to make the movie stylistically like a bad 70's movie. Lucy Liu's character was a Chinese-American-Japanese army brat turned assassin who took over the whole nationwide Yakuza with sword fighting high school students, I don't think you were supposed to "buy" her as a real world Yakuza boss. They belonged to the "DiVAS" assasination squad and were code-named after snakes, Daryl Hannah's code name was "California Mountain Snake", what kind of assassin would call themselves California Mountain Snake? Vivica Fox's character was mad she didn't get to be called "Black Mamba". Have I mentioned they used a old Godzilla set yet? The movie was supposed to be silly and unrealistic, that was the whole point. </p><p> </p><p> Acting is a talent, it is much much harder to train a decent actor than a decent martial artist. Just look at the caliber of martal artist/actors out there (Chuck Norris isn't winning many Oscars). It's real hard to teach personal charisma and you will never be able to train somebody to have the looks of a Swedish model. Besides there is very little in common between real martial arts and movie martial arts, one is meant for self defence and one is meant to look <em>cool</em> on a movie screen. </p><p> </p><p>(By the way Lucy Liu practices Kali-Eskrima stick fighting, so she actually does have some real martial arts training, she also has a degree in Chinese Language and Culture so I bet her Chinese is pretty fluent at least.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdavis, post: 1181378, member: 8704"] But see that was sort of the point of the whole movie, it wasn't supposed to look like a real fight it was supposed to look like a over the top movie fight from a old action movie, if the fight scenes were in any way realistic then it would of looked really silly, it's the flash and the glitz and the jumping around like a insane monkey that people want to see, real martial arts looks pretty poor in movies and the sword fighting scene would of ended with somebody running up behind Uma and sticking a sword in her 30 seconds into it. Not to mention the fact that this movie was meant to look like a [b]bad[/b] 70's movie, there is a good chance they intentionally went way way overboard with it. Going into this movie and saying that any thing about it wasn't realistic enough really misses the point here, it's supposed to be in the movie world not the real world, it's supposed to be corney and goofy, they intentionally left mistakes and plot loopholes in the fim because that's how the films this was taken from were. As I've said before they should of dubbed it with bad voices and out of sync with the movie, them speaking poor Japanese added to the whole effect for me. The fact that the sword fight was so over the top and unreal was also a big part of the fun. All the stuff you didn't like is stuff they did intentionally to make the movie stylistically like a bad 70's movie. Lucy Liu's character was a Chinese-American-Japanese army brat turned assassin who took over the whole nationwide Yakuza with sword fighting high school students, I don't think you were supposed to "buy" her as a real world Yakuza boss. They belonged to the "DiVAS" assasination squad and were code-named after snakes, Daryl Hannah's code name was "California Mountain Snake", what kind of assassin would call themselves California Mountain Snake? Vivica Fox's character was mad she didn't get to be called "Black Mamba". Have I mentioned they used a old Godzilla set yet? The movie was supposed to be silly and unrealistic, that was the whole point. Acting is a talent, it is much much harder to train a decent actor than a decent martial artist. Just look at the caliber of martal artist/actors out there (Chuck Norris isn't winning many Oscars). It's real hard to teach personal charisma and you will never be able to train somebody to have the looks of a Swedish model. Besides there is very little in common between real martial arts and movie martial arts, one is meant for self defence and one is meant to look [i]cool[/i] on a movie screen. (By the way Lucy Liu practices Kali-Eskrima stick fighting, so she actually does have some real martial arts training, she also has a degree in Chinese Language and Culture so I bet her Chinese is pretty fluent at least.) [/QUOTE]
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