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<blockquote data-quote="KidSnide" data-source="post: 3743294" data-attributes="member: 54710"><p>Well, they may flatten the power curve, but that's not the same as expanding the sweet spot. When they said that they wanted the feel of 3E levels 4-14 to apply to 4E levels 1-30 that doesn't mean that a 4E L30 character is as powerful as a 3E L14 character. Frankly, since 21-30 is supposed to be epic, I imagine a 4E L30 character to be similar in *power* to a 3E L30 character. (4E L1 will likely be stronger than 3E L1, since 3E L1 is viewed as too weak to be fun.)</p><p></p><p>The aspect that will be leveled out across L1-30 in 4E is the *complexity* of playing the characters. For example, I expect there to vastly fewer buff effects to avoid the massive accounting involved in high-level 3E play. Similarly, with per/encounter abilities replacing much of Vancean memorization, I expect there to be less pre-game prep work. A L30 caster will have a less mind-numbingly large number of choices with which to deal. However, fighters of all level will gain maneuvers, and so those characters will have an increased number of reasonable choices. </p><p></p><p>If I had to guess, like Tome of Battle, we will see characters replacing weak spells/maneuvers/abilities with more powerful spells/maneuvers/abilities as they gain levels. The number of choices will stay within a reasonable bound even as the individual choices get stronger.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KidSnide, post: 3743294, member: 54710"] Well, they may flatten the power curve, but that's not the same as expanding the sweet spot. When they said that they wanted the feel of 3E levels 4-14 to apply to 4E levels 1-30 that doesn't mean that a 4E L30 character is as powerful as a 3E L14 character. Frankly, since 21-30 is supposed to be epic, I imagine a 4E L30 character to be similar in *power* to a 3E L30 character. (4E L1 will likely be stronger than 3E L1, since 3E L1 is viewed as too weak to be fun.) The aspect that will be leveled out across L1-30 in 4E is the *complexity* of playing the characters. For example, I expect there to vastly fewer buff effects to avoid the massive accounting involved in high-level 3E play. Similarly, with per/encounter abilities replacing much of Vancean memorization, I expect there to be less pre-game prep work. A L30 caster will have a less mind-numbingly large number of choices with which to deal. However, fighters of all level will gain maneuvers, and so those characters will have an increased number of reasonable choices. If I had to guess, like Tome of Battle, we will see characters replacing weak spells/maneuvers/abilities with more powerful spells/maneuvers/abilities as they gain levels. The number of choices will stay within a reasonable bound even as the individual choices get stronger. [/QUOTE]
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