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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 7881823" data-attributes="member: 957">And, to be clear, every system has math. Some systems systems start with the math and then back into doing th best they can to fit the narrative.   Some system have a loose math foundation and then look to the narrative to see how that math should emerge.Your example forced you to go all the way to L20 to even try.    It may be good enough for you, but it is not in the ballpark of good enough for me.  And it gets way worse at say L5 where a lot more gameplay happens. Again, it is totally cool that this works for you.  But can you seriously try to say you are really looking at it from my point of view and don't see how it fails completely based on what I'm seeking?</blockquote>