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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 2301446" data-attributes="member: 5171"><p>Right. Like I said. You're implying that I don't think he pleased his fans. I believe we've been over the ratings here and on IMDB and come to the conclusion that people are liking it.</p><p></p><p>Hence the number of times I wrote "in my opinion" or "for me".</p><p></p><p>I had problems with the movie. Other people here also had problems with the movie. Thus, while the movie might make a truckload of money, it did not please all its fans. And if you go back through the 10 pages of posts, you'll find several people who (as I mentioned earlier) posted fairly critical reviews and then gave it a 7 because Yoda looked cool taking down the stormtroopers, so if you want to compare this movie to, say, a non-Star Wars movie, figure that it's getting about half a star for free on a five-point scale simply because it's got the familiar iconography of a Star Wars movie.</p><p></p><p>If Lucas pleased his fans just fine, then evidently all the bloggers I've run into with "Why this movie disappointed me" posts were not his fans. Or perhaps, just perhaps, the situation is more nuanced than the fact that your dad liked it just fine might imply.</p><p></p><p>I can play anecdotal evidence all day. I've got disappointed buddies lined up around the block. Unfortunately, some of their often hilarious critiques include language that Grandma wouldn't like, so they remain unlinked -- but they're still just anecdotal evidence, no more or less valid than your dad. In the end, the box office receipts will be wonderful, the critics' reviews will continue to be mixed, and the internet will foam with a mixture of people who politely question the rationality of the folks whose opinions are different from theirs. And life will go on.</p><p></p><p>It's more of a success than I'd like, since I'd like for Hollywood to clearly hear that making an FX-heavy movie is not an excuse for bad writing. It's less of a success than Brother Shatterstone would like, because there are a number of people on this board and elsewhere who had issues with the movie, and it's never fun when other people vocally dislike a movie that was so moving and close to your heart and such a big hit for you. (That's not a slam on you, Brother Shatterstone -- I'd be posting stuff a lot like you are posting if someone didn't like a movie I'd really loved and that worked for me on almost every level.) </p><p></p><p>I was trying to give a different angle of explanation for why the movie didn't work for me, Ankh. I even wrote "for me" several times. Telling me that I'm wrong for trying to examine the reasons that the movie didn't work <strong>for me</strong>, or for the fans who have posted the hilarious and expletive-filled critiques, is not going to change my mind.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takyris, post: 2301446, member: 5171"] Right. Like I said. You're implying that I don't think he pleased his fans. I believe we've been over the ratings here and on IMDB and come to the conclusion that people are liking it. Hence the number of times I wrote "in my opinion" or "for me". I had problems with the movie. Other people here also had problems with the movie. Thus, while the movie might make a truckload of money, it did not please all its fans. And if you go back through the 10 pages of posts, you'll find several people who (as I mentioned earlier) posted fairly critical reviews and then gave it a 7 because Yoda looked cool taking down the stormtroopers, so if you want to compare this movie to, say, a non-Star Wars movie, figure that it's getting about half a star for free on a five-point scale simply because it's got the familiar iconography of a Star Wars movie. If Lucas pleased his fans just fine, then evidently all the bloggers I've run into with "Why this movie disappointed me" posts were not his fans. Or perhaps, just perhaps, the situation is more nuanced than the fact that your dad liked it just fine might imply. I can play anecdotal evidence all day. I've got disappointed buddies lined up around the block. Unfortunately, some of their often hilarious critiques include language that Grandma wouldn't like, so they remain unlinked -- but they're still just anecdotal evidence, no more or less valid than your dad. In the end, the box office receipts will be wonderful, the critics' reviews will continue to be mixed, and the internet will foam with a mixture of people who politely question the rationality of the folks whose opinions are different from theirs. And life will go on. It's more of a success than I'd like, since I'd like for Hollywood to clearly hear that making an FX-heavy movie is not an excuse for bad writing. It's less of a success than Brother Shatterstone would like, because there are a number of people on this board and elsewhere who had issues with the movie, and it's never fun when other people vocally dislike a movie that was so moving and close to your heart and such a big hit for you. (That's not a slam on you, Brother Shatterstone -- I'd be posting stuff a lot like you are posting if someone didn't like a movie I'd really loved and that worked for me on almost every level.) I was trying to give a different angle of explanation for why the movie didn't work for me, Ankh. I even wrote "for me" several times. Telling me that I'm wrong for trying to examine the reasons that the movie didn't work [b]for me[/b], or for the fans who have posted the hilarious and expletive-filled critiques, is not going to change my mind. [/QUOTE]
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