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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 1637772" data-attributes="member: 4275">Doctor Octopus did NOT die. Not by comic book standards especially. Did we see a body? Was that body autopsied? Brain removed? Heart in a jear? Even THEN in a comic book there can be a come back, but sinking into the water with a big fusion bomb blowing up on top of you is not NEARLY enough to qualify as "death" in a supers context <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And to address your other question- "why MJ finds out his secret ID"... in this case its because it happened that way in the comics. It is 100% canon. She knows in the regular universe, she knows in the Ultimate universe. Granted it took a lot longer for her to find out in the standard Marvel U, but movies move (pun intended) at a faster pace than serialized comics, which must draw things out forever.Also, this telling of Spider man is more of an Ultimate U telling anyway, and in the Ultimate U she knows right off the bat.Chuck</blockquote>