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<blockquote data-quote="Imaculata" data-source="post: 7536463" data-attributes="member: 6801286"><p>My issue with it, is that it is no answer at all. The first movie sets up an expectation that there is a reason for Rey's powers... and then the conclusion to that plot hook is that there is no answer... I don't find that very compelling writing. It is a twist of a sort for sure... but was that really the best they could come up with?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sometimes when you flip the table, all you're left with is a mess.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think I like that angle better than what they went with. Yes, it creates more questions, which could be explored in movie 3.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because I feel he still hasn't made the journey to the darkside yet. TFA leaves a little doubt hanging.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because in the trailer to TLJ they make a big deal out of it, and it would explain why she is able to use her powers so quickly in TFA. In a way they set it up already, but didn't follow up on it. I think it is an interesting angle to her character.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why? Everyone keeps criticizing Disney Star Wars about never doing anything new, and repeating beats from previous movies. And yet here is a chance to truly do something unexpected, and you don't want them to do it? Why?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think any of this is true. Having to be saved from yourself does not make you a damsel in distress. Having her succumb to the dark side does not make her morally less strong than previous characters, because the previous movies have already set up that the darkside can be very tempting, especially when it exploits feelings of fear and grief. Giving Rey a weakness in her character is good writing in my opinion, and the only way to get away from the feeling that she is a Mary Sue character. I also don't think it reduces her protagonist status. In fact, it makes her take central stage more. One of my issues with TLJ, was that it didn't seem to know what to do with Rey and her journey. It didn't seem to know how she fit into the story.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It could have been about stopping Snoke, or the First Order as a whole.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think they could and should have tied them to Luke's plot in TLJ. It would have given Luke and Rey a common enemy to fight, and allowed them to better explain why Luke is in exile, while building up the threat of Kylo Ren. The big fight with Snoke's guards was nice and all, but really something they should have saved for the third movie.</p><p></p><p>Disney really should have thought all of this out before making any of the movies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaculata, post: 7536463, member: 6801286"] My issue with it, is that it is no answer at all. The first movie sets up an expectation that there is a reason for Rey's powers... and then the conclusion to that plot hook is that there is no answer... I don't find that very compelling writing. It is a twist of a sort for sure... but was that really the best they could come up with? Sometimes when you flip the table, all you're left with is a mess. I think I like that angle better than what they went with. Yes, it creates more questions, which could be explored in movie 3. Because I feel he still hasn't made the journey to the darkside yet. TFA leaves a little doubt hanging. Because in the trailer to TLJ they make a big deal out of it, and it would explain why she is able to use her powers so quickly in TFA. In a way they set it up already, but didn't follow up on it. I think it is an interesting angle to her character. Why? Everyone keeps criticizing Disney Star Wars about never doing anything new, and repeating beats from previous movies. And yet here is a chance to truly do something unexpected, and you don't want them to do it? Why? I don't think any of this is true. Having to be saved from yourself does not make you a damsel in distress. Having her succumb to the dark side does not make her morally less strong than previous characters, because the previous movies have already set up that the darkside can be very tempting, especially when it exploits feelings of fear and grief. Giving Rey a weakness in her character is good writing in my opinion, and the only way to get away from the feeling that she is a Mary Sue character. I also don't think it reduces her protagonist status. In fact, it makes her take central stage more. One of my issues with TLJ, was that it didn't seem to know what to do with Rey and her journey. It didn't seem to know how she fit into the story. It could have been about stopping Snoke, or the First Order as a whole. I think they could and should have tied them to Luke's plot in TLJ. It would have given Luke and Rey a common enemy to fight, and allowed them to better explain why Luke is in exile, while building up the threat of Kylo Ren. The big fight with Snoke's guards was nice and all, but really something they should have saved for the third movie. Disney really should have thought all of this out before making any of the movies. [/QUOTE]
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