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<blockquote data-quote="Chain Lightning" data-source="post: 1544910" data-attributes="member: 6791"><p>Just saw it.</p><p></p><p>I can totally see the division in the audience. Some laughed at moments, some took it seriously. I think it depends on taste really, not whether or not the makers messed up or not.</p><p></p><p>I liked the movie. There are a few nit picky areas I could....well, that I could nit pick. But I won't. They're very minor. I had fun watching this movie. It was enjoyable. And yes, the Hector vs. Achilles fight was worth price of admission alone. IMHO.</p><p></p><p>It goes into my list of top ten movie sword fights (or melee weapon fights..whatever).</p><p></p><p>Dark Jezter wrote: </p><p></p><p>Yeah I agree that this is NOT a negative on the movie. Saying you hate Paris doesn't mean the movie is flawed. If you hate these types of characters, its there for you to hate. Do you have a need to "love" every character? Every character has to be a big macho skilled man of war for it to be cool? Yeah....I've seen this so often. Distain for a character simply because he's a pretty boy, slight, etc, etc.</p><p></p><p>If that's what the character is suppose to be, that's what he's suppose to be. If you like the more kick-butt action types. There's plenty in the movie. Hector, Achilles, Ajax, etc, etc. The movie would've really 'made it' for you if they re-wrote Paris to kick butt and be more macho in the way like your leading men?</p><p></p><p>I liked Paris because of the drama his naive actions bring to the dynamic of his family. And of Troy. A big contrast to Hector. That's what he's there to do. You're suppose to feel that way about him. Yeah yeah, you suspect that the makers of the film wanted you to like him in a more leading protagonist "Hollywood" way....but I think they hit the spot on what they wanted. He is what he is. It is actually Helen herself that trys to disuade the notions the audience has for him to make him seem more a worthy man. Not because he's a great hero....but perfect for what Helen looks for in a man. Obviously not the same things we look for in a hero.But that's the point of her speech to him right?</p><p></p><p>Okay, so I said this movie is cool. What if anything do I not like about it? Well, if I had to name some things, it would be just one really. And that's the music score. James Horner....yet again proves he shouldn't be hired anymore until he can come up with new music.</p><p></p><p>Music does not compliment the visuals that well at all. Plus, Horner is going on with his usual rifts. If you really want to have the full effect of realizing how lame Horner is, do the following: listen to the "Willow" soundtrack, then the "Enemy at the Gates" soundtrack, and then....go see "Troy". </p><p></p><p>You notice how he keeps using that same "Da Na-na-NA!" music sting? ( heh heh, like I can describe it in words over the internet ) But if any of you are soundtrack buffs out there reading this, you know what I mean don't ya?</p><p></p><p>Regardless, still a fun movie to watch. Soundtrack may not help it, but it doesn't totally ruin it. C'mon guys, we're D&D players....of course we'll see Troy and walk away with at least some stuff to inspire us in our games right?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chain Lightning, post: 1544910, member: 6791"] Just saw it. I can totally see the division in the audience. Some laughed at moments, some took it seriously. I think it depends on taste really, not whether or not the makers messed up or not. I liked the movie. There are a few nit picky areas I could....well, that I could nit pick. But I won't. They're very minor. I had fun watching this movie. It was enjoyable. And yes, the Hector vs. Achilles fight was worth price of admission alone. IMHO. It goes into my list of top ten movie sword fights (or melee weapon fights..whatever). Dark Jezter wrote: Yeah I agree that this is NOT a negative on the movie. Saying you hate Paris doesn't mean the movie is flawed. If you hate these types of characters, its there for you to hate. Do you have a need to "love" every character? Every character has to be a big macho skilled man of war for it to be cool? Yeah....I've seen this so often. Distain for a character simply because he's a pretty boy, slight, etc, etc. If that's what the character is suppose to be, that's what he's suppose to be. If you like the more kick-butt action types. There's plenty in the movie. Hector, Achilles, Ajax, etc, etc. The movie would've really 'made it' for you if they re-wrote Paris to kick butt and be more macho in the way like your leading men? I liked Paris because of the drama his naive actions bring to the dynamic of his family. And of Troy. A big contrast to Hector. That's what he's there to do. You're suppose to feel that way about him. Yeah yeah, you suspect that the makers of the film wanted you to like him in a more leading protagonist "Hollywood" way....but I think they hit the spot on what they wanted. He is what he is. It is actually Helen herself that trys to disuade the notions the audience has for him to make him seem more a worthy man. Not because he's a great hero....but perfect for what Helen looks for in a man. Obviously not the same things we look for in a hero.But that's the point of her speech to him right? Okay, so I said this movie is cool. What if anything do I not like about it? Well, if I had to name some things, it would be just one really. And that's the music score. James Horner....yet again proves he shouldn't be hired anymore until he can come up with new music. Music does not compliment the visuals that well at all. Plus, Horner is going on with his usual rifts. If you really want to have the full effect of realizing how lame Horner is, do the following: listen to the "Willow" soundtrack, then the "Enemy at the Gates" soundtrack, and then....go see "Troy". You notice how he keeps using that same "Da Na-na-NA!" music sting? ( heh heh, like I can describe it in words over the internet ) But if any of you are soundtrack buffs out there reading this, you know what I mean don't ya? Regardless, still a fun movie to watch. Soundtrack may not help it, but it doesn't totally ruin it. C'mon guys, we're D&D players....of course we'll see Troy and walk away with at least some stuff to inspire us in our games right? [/QUOTE]
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