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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 1546810" data-attributes="member: 4720"><p>Couple of things...</p><p></p><p></p><p>No offense, but you're kidding, right? CN on his best day. One could argue that he was CG and <strong><em>incredibly</em></strong> dumb. But I don't buy it. No one lacks forethought to that degree. He was selfish and found ways to get what he wanted while appearing conflicted about it.</p><p></p><p>The only change in the story that really, <em>really</em> bothered me is [spoiler] that we are to assume he and Helen got away and lived free at the end. [/spoiler] Aside from this (I think, singular) willful break with <strong>both</strong> the letter and spirit of the source material, that's just a dreadful, dreadful injustice.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not the problem. The problem is that he's endlessly selfish, yet the movie insists on treating him as a hero. He is 50% responsible for the whole mess that leads to the deaths of thousands, including his father and brother. He makes several pathetic and half-hearted attempts to make up for this and consistently succeeds only in making things worse. I mean... [spoiler]If accountability meant anything, he should be #1 on the Hollywood "Is a jerk, and will therefore die" list. They killed Agamemnon <strong>against</strong> the source material for comparable sins while leaving Paris alive against both the source material and the sin-o-meter. [/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>One other issue, I've noticed at least one complaint here (and a number in the reviews) that the actress is "not believable as 'the face that launched a thousand ships.'" I ask you, who could possible be believable in that role? I challenge you to find a single woman who even 100 people will agree is the "most beautiful woman in the world." Besides, the way the movie played out her beauty and Menelaus were secondary to Agamemnon's greed. So she didn't need to be "the face that launched a thousand ships."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 1546810, member: 4720"] Couple of things... No offense, but you're kidding, right? CN on his best day. One could argue that he was CG and [b][i]incredibly[/i][/b] dumb. But I don't buy it. No one lacks forethought to that degree. He was selfish and found ways to get what he wanted while appearing conflicted about it. The only change in the story that really, [i]really[/i] bothered me is [spoiler] that we are to assume he and Helen got away and lived free at the end. [/spoiler] Aside from this (I think, singular) willful break with [b]both[/b] the letter and spirit of the source material, that's just a dreadful, dreadful injustice. Not the problem. The problem is that he's endlessly selfish, yet the movie insists on treating him as a hero. He is 50% responsible for the whole mess that leads to the deaths of thousands, including his father and brother. He makes several pathetic and half-hearted attempts to make up for this and consistently succeeds only in making things worse. I mean... [spoiler]If accountability meant anything, he should be #1 on the Hollywood "Is a jerk, and will therefore die" list. They killed Agamemnon [b]against[/b] the source material for comparable sins while leaving Paris alive against both the source material and the sin-o-meter. [/spoiler] One other issue, I've noticed at least one complaint here (and a number in the reviews) that the actress is "not believable as 'the face that launched a thousand ships.'" I ask you, who could possible be believable in that role? I challenge you to find a single woman who even 100 people will agree is the "most beautiful woman in the world." Besides, the way the movie played out her beauty and Menelaus were secondary to Agamemnon's greed. So she didn't need to be "the face that launched a thousand ships." [/QUOTE]
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