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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shilsen" data-source="post: 1549933" data-attributes="member: 198">Thanks for the synopsis. You had me a little worried when you mentioned Diomede, because I read is as Diomedes for a moment <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Definitely. The Greek (esp. Hellenic) conception of heroism was very far away from the modern conception. I always thought it would have been interesting to see the response if the "Hercules" TV show had depicted Hercules the way he was described in the original myths, which make Achilles look like a choirboy in comparison.Right. I thought of that when I was seeing the scene in the movie. I can't recall if that's the one in the Iliad, but IIRC there is a tradition wherein Achilles is disguised as a woman and placed among many others to hide him from the "recruiters". But Odysseus cleverly provides them a number of gifts, which include a sword, and Achilles immediately reaches for the weapon and reveals himself.On a related note, Odysseus himself pretends to be crazy earlier to avoid the war. He is found out when someone places the baby Telemachus in the furrow Odysseus is ploughing and the supposedly insane man carefully ploughs around his son. Apparently Troy wasn't that popular a destination with all the Greeks.No apology needed. I just thought you might have missed the earlier posts. Yeah. I'm just glad that they named the movie "Troy" rather than "Iliad". Funny anecdote - on the way into the movie, I passed a couple who had evidently just left, and this lady seemed very surprised while the guy was explaining to her that there was actually a book and some historical evidence and it wasn't all made up by the film-makers. Then again, maybe that's not funny so much as scary for what it says about the level of education and general knowledge in this country.Asinine? You are a polite man!</blockquote>

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