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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 2549158" data-attributes="member: 3854">I fully realize that WG7 (I won't call it by its name) is a very sore spot for some folks. I love the World of Greyhawk, starting with seeing the 1980 folio in the store, and then purchasing the 1983 boxed set a couple years later. WoG is the only campaign world I've DMed and played in other than my own homebrew. My love affair with WoG gets . . . complicated . . . after ~1988.When I saw WG7 in the book store, all these years ago, I recognized immediately that this was not EGG's/WoG's "real" Castle Greyhawk. I dismissed it and never bothered fretting or hating over it. For me, the Temple of Elemental Evil and GDQ were the quintissential EGG/WoG mega-adventures.Although I've always been interested in seeing EGG's original Castle Greyhawk, I know that we'll never get it. Even the thing he's writing now will not be the original, real thing.And I have read every word EGG ever wrote (that I knew of) about D&D and his personal campaign -- game books, magazine articles (Dragon and other), novels, etc. In the past few years, with his articles in modern Dragon magazine and his postings here, I've learned his games were not as serious (or fair, by his own words) as I had thought for 20 years.As I said, read some of the modern Dragon articles where he talks about his old games. There was plenty of silliness in his games. Actually, silliness with a mean streak at times. He's even mentioned playing while everyone was essentially tipsy/drunk. (The slingshot to the moon is an actual anecdote from his game displayed by himself in Dragon magazine -- I didn't make that up.)As an adventure, WG7 could/should have been published with no connection at all to WoG or Castle Greyhawk. It might have been better received if it had been. But I also know, through reading EGG's own words, how his campaign had silliness and foolishness galore. If we were to see the original/real Castle Greyhawk, I'm sure many people would be shocked to see it is not the grand, serious, and meaningful adventure many people have built it up to be in their minds. That, I'm sure, is one reason EGG has/is not publishing it as is.And, as I pointed out, EGG wrote and published Dungeonland and Beyond the Magic Mirror. Modules based on Alice in Wonderland can't really be said to be terribly serious, although they were quite dangerous adventures -- silliness with a mean streak.Quasqueton</blockquote>

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