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Message: <blockquote data-quote="korjik" data-source="post: 4390133" data-attributes="member: 56755">I gotta say I am not happy. I kinda wonder if there has been a bit of a change in the corporate culture over the last two or three years, or have I been not noticing alot since 2000. I first started to get a but anxious a couple years ago. It seemed like WOTC was putting out books almost completely devoid of useable product (cityscape and DMG 2). On the other hand, I really liked the fiendish codex(es. sorry I really dont know what the plural is <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ). The 4th ed announcement really torqued me. I felt like I was getting lectured to by people who thought I was a 13 year old idiot fanboy. Kinda annoying for an arrogant 38 year old rocket scientist. Very, very badly put me, and my group off of WOTC. I do have to be intellectually honest tho. I have found many games to be much better when you read the rules and play then when you are getting teased. I planned from the start that I would give 4th ed a good going over. Which we are, by the way.  Then there is the online stuff. This is where WOTC is shaping up to make 4th ed a failure. They promised a good deal of online product. Char gen, map gen, online play table, online sourcebook,... On rollout day, nothing. Not a dang thing. Not even a barely functional beta for us to drool over and curse. With 10 months to prep, this is inexcusable. One of the main reasons I find this to be such a problem is that they have done it before, but cant seem to learn. Remember the disk with the demo of what became eTools? After that fiasco, they should have had solid guarantees about the online stuff before they announced and hyped it. Then there are the 4th ed books. My 3 and 3.5 books are very worn and battered, but they are still solid and flat. That is after years of frequent use. Those were some of the highest quality books I have ever seen. I expect that sort of quality to continue once found. My 4ed PHB didnt lie flat when I closed it when I got in my car leaving B&N after a quick look in the parking lot. Not a good thing. Typos seem overly frequent also, especially in this day of pretty instant editing. The 'tips from the pros' are also a bit pretentious. So, I have to say that I currently do not feel that WOTC is doing a very good job.</blockquote>

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