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<blockquote data-quote="Dragon Snack" data-source="post: 4390556" data-attributes="member: 9810"><p>I voted before reading the thread, I apparently gave them a generous 2...</p><p></p><p>I don't like the new edition, I'm not happy with the GSL (but for different reasons than most), I haven't bought DDM in over a year (and haven't bought cases since WotDQ), I don't play Magic, IMO they don't put out enough for Star Wars (few books and the minis recycle too many of the main characters), and I haven't bought any of the "new" Axis and Allies or other Avalon Hill stuff (and I am a big fan of the original A&A).</p><p></p><p>My view of them <em>as a company</em> gets them that rating. They had a successful release of D&D and Magic (although I've heard rumblings of discontent) is still going strong. I haven't bought anything from them since Dungeon Tiles IV (discounting the Chainmail minis I picked up from the bargain bin for $1/piece) and even before that my purchases were few and far between - but <em>they are still selling lots of stuff to lots of people.</em></p><p></p><p>That said, if they don't move their butts (to put it mildly) on the DDI then a big selling point of 4.0 will be an utter failure. The GSL as it stands shows me they have concerns about competition - there must be some reason (and that doesn't bode well for the long term outlook). If the quality of the DDM sculpts/paintjobs doesn't get back to where it was then the sales inevitably will drop off (since new competitors are entering the market). That leaves Magic, which has served them well - hence the 2. Not horrible, but with a big (possible) downside. I had forgotten about Heroscape though (but I'm still not sure it would have effected my vote).</p><p></p><p>If I actually liked 4.0 I may have had an even worse view of them, but since I'm not spending my money on them the reused art/maps and overall lower quality of the books didn't register with me...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dragon Snack, post: 4390556, member: 9810"] I voted before reading the thread, I apparently gave them a generous 2... I don't like the new edition, I'm not happy with the GSL (but for different reasons than most), I haven't bought DDM in over a year (and haven't bought cases since WotDQ), I don't play Magic, IMO they don't put out enough for Star Wars (few books and the minis recycle too many of the main characters), and I haven't bought any of the "new" Axis and Allies or other Avalon Hill stuff (and I am a big fan of the original A&A). My view of them [i]as a company[/i] gets them that rating. They had a successful release of D&D and Magic (although I've heard rumblings of discontent) is still going strong. I haven't bought anything from them since Dungeon Tiles IV (discounting the Chainmail minis I picked up from the bargain bin for $1/piece) and even before that my purchases were few and far between - but [i]they are still selling lots of stuff to lots of people.[/i] That said, if they don't move their butts (to put it mildly) on the DDI then a big selling point of 4.0 will be an utter failure. The GSL as it stands shows me they have concerns about competition - there must be some reason (and that doesn't bode well for the long term outlook). If the quality of the DDM sculpts/paintjobs doesn't get back to where it was then the sales inevitably will drop off (since new competitors are entering the market). That leaves Magic, which has served them well - hence the 2. Not horrible, but with a big (possible) downside. I had forgotten about Heroscape though (but I'm still not sure it would have effected my vote). If I actually liked 4.0 I may have had an even worse view of them, but since I'm not spending my money on them the reused art/maps and overall lower quality of the books didn't register with me... [/QUOTE]
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