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<blockquote data-quote="carmachu" data-source="post: 4396102" data-attributes="member: 34534">They geta 2 from me. Putting aside the whether I like or not like 4e:&nbsp;1)PR/Advertising of 4e:was terrible. They seemed to put down things that went before and players that didnt want to move along. They just seemed to step in it PR wise and almost every turn. Others have pointed out the faults here.&nbsp;2)Cancel Dungeon/DragonAnd how it was handled. The online content has not been up to par. The advetures havent been good, full of errors. And the &quot;SOmething really cool is coming to replace it&quot; leads to the next point.&nbsp;3)DDI/Gleemax:No matter what some of you say, they advertised and lead us to believe that it would be around for the roll out. As pointed out, its advertised in the freaking 4e books. And Gleemax has been awful. I expect Enworld and some sites to have occassionaly outages, but Wotc's has been almost regularly irregular. Navigation on Gleemax, which is still Alpha at this point, is the worst I have had to do.&nbsp;4)GSLWas pretty much a straw that broke the camels back. Wotc has NO track record of writing good advetures. RHoD and RtTEE were exceptions, not rules. Third parties of all sorts had great quality of work in them, whther its Paizo, Necro or even Goodman, all of them are better than WotC was writing and Dungeon's online offerings show it. GSL's goal of quality isnt going to live up to its hype: the ones with quality are going to stay, the fly-by-nights are going to produce more crap.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="carmachu, post: 4396102, member: 34534"] They geta 2 from me. Putting aside the whether I like or not like 4e: 1)PR/Advertising of 4e: was terrible. They seemed to put down things that went before and players that didnt want to move along. They just seemed to step in it PR wise and almost every turn. Others have pointed out the faults here. 2)Cancel Dungeon/Dragon And how it was handled. The online content has not been up to par. The advetures havent been good, full of errors. And the "SOmething really cool is coming to replace it" leads to the next point. 3)DDI/Gleemax: No matter what some of you say, they advertised and lead us to believe that it would be around for the roll out. As pointed out, its advertised in the freaking 4e books. And Gleemax has been awful. I expect Enworld and some sites to have occassionaly outages, but Wotc's has been almost regularly irregular. Navigation on Gleemax, which is still Alpha at this point, is the worst I have had to do. 4)GSL Was pretty much a straw that broke the camels back. Wotc has NO track record of writing good advetures. RHoD and RtTEE were exceptions, not rules. Third parties of all sorts had great quality of work in them, whther its Paizo, Necro or even Goodman, all of them are better than WotC was writing and Dungeon's online offerings show it. GSL's goal of quality isnt going to live up to its hype: the ones with quality are going to stay, the fly-by-nights are going to produce more crap. [/QUOTE]

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