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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6365709" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>I know it's a work-in-progress, but the XP values for a 1st-level encounter in the basic document seem...a little odd.</p><p></p><p>A CR 1 creature is worth 200 XP.</p><p></p><p>By the XP/encounter charts, this is more XP than you ever want to throw at a level 1 party in 1 encounter.</p><p></p><p>Like, a Quasit is <strong>beyond deadly</strong>.</p><p></p><p>You've gotta assemble encounters from CR < 1 creatures. But even then you gotta be careful -- the XP Multipliers kick in if you have more than 1 critter, so, like two zombies? That's one too tough. </p><p></p><p>5e is a system that supports "level 1 ratslaying" rather well in that 5 rats is a Deadly level 1 encounter. </p><p></p><p>Daaaaaaang.</p><p></p><p>It's really driving home the point that level 1 characters, though capable of powerful magic and remarkable feats of atheletic prowess...are still in a world where even an angry group of housecats can take you out. I mean, I live in NYC, I could totally imagine 5 gnarly subway rats who decided to team up against some guy on the subway platform with a delicious sandwich or something taking that guy *down.* Harder to imagine them doing it to four dudes...but eh. </p><p></p><p>I think I'm kind of a fan of it (a low-level character is not going to stand against armies), but going from 4e to this is a bit of a system shock. This is perhaps the first time that a D&D edition actually ramped <em>down</em> the power level of 1st-level characters. </p><p></p><p>But it's still really weird that a level 1 party cannot really fight a CR 1 creature.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6365709, member: 2067"] I know it's a work-in-progress, but the XP values for a 1st-level encounter in the basic document seem...a little odd. A CR 1 creature is worth 200 XP. By the XP/encounter charts, this is more XP than you ever want to throw at a level 1 party in 1 encounter. Like, a Quasit is [B]beyond deadly[/B]. You've gotta assemble encounters from CR < 1 creatures. But even then you gotta be careful -- the XP Multipliers kick in if you have more than 1 critter, so, like two zombies? That's one too tough. 5e is a system that supports "level 1 ratslaying" rather well in that 5 rats is a Deadly level 1 encounter. Daaaaaaang. It's really driving home the point that level 1 characters, though capable of powerful magic and remarkable feats of atheletic prowess...are still in a world where even an angry group of housecats can take you out. I mean, I live in NYC, I could totally imagine 5 gnarly subway rats who decided to team up against some guy on the subway platform with a delicious sandwich or something taking that guy *down.* Harder to imagine them doing it to four dudes...but eh. I think I'm kind of a fan of it (a low-level character is not going to stand against armies), but going from 4e to this is a bit of a system shock. This is perhaps the first time that a D&D edition actually ramped [I]down[/I] the power level of 1st-level characters. But it's still really weird that a level 1 party cannot really fight a CR 1 creature. [/QUOTE]
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