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Ravenloft Campaigns: What’s the meta-point?
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<blockquote data-quote="gonzoron" data-source="post: 4665765" data-attributes="member: 31753"><p>As I mentioned, I would argue that being part of Barovia is better than being part of Gundarak. Strahd is at least protective of "his land" rather than being strictly predatory like Gundar.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yup, and most likely that would be an island of terror no one noticed, or another "pimple" on the Core or a cluster created by the Mists pulling back. It's not going to spring up between Barovia and Borca.</p><p></p><p> Well, I can't move the line where your suspension of disbelief ends. But I personally find that more palatable than "it magically appeared." YMMV.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> 100% agreed. That's precisely what they are for. Unsubtle, and I don't like using them, but I do like the option being there. I will say that of the changes you propose, losing the border closures is the one I'd be most likely to accept. It has somewhat outlived its usefulness as Ravenloft has knitted together into a world.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> I suspect you'd like a lot of what's been done in 3e then, if you haven't read it. And they've done this without dumping the demiplane. Filing away the rough edges and making the world live as one has clearly been a goal of the recent products.</p><p> Indeed, but even in Lamordia, they don't have weather satellites or computer weather modelling. Fledgling meteorologists are surely making measurements with rudimentary barometers and thermometers (Galileo made his near the turn of the 17th century, and Lamordia's tech isn't too much further along than that at CL9, ~1550-1700AD). Maybe they're just starting to wonder why their cold winters aren't completely explained by elevation. But it's a long way from there to "magical Dark Powers did it." And even then, the Lamordians accept the Mists as the source of all matter (see Gazetteer II). In a world where magic and science exist, science must view magic as another natural phenomenon that isn't yet fully explained.</p><p></p><p>Yup, and that's just fine. I'm only trying to point out how long-term campaigns in Ravenloft can and do work for some, despite those points.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gonzoron, post: 4665765, member: 31753"] As I mentioned, I would argue that being part of Barovia is better than being part of Gundarak. Strahd is at least protective of "his land" rather than being strictly predatory like Gundar. Yup, and most likely that would be an island of terror no one noticed, or another "pimple" on the Core or a cluster created by the Mists pulling back. It's not going to spring up between Barovia and Borca. Well, I can't move the line where your suspension of disbelief ends. But I personally find that more palatable than "it magically appeared." YMMV. 100% agreed. That's precisely what they are for. Unsubtle, and I don't like using them, but I do like the option being there. I will say that of the changes you propose, losing the border closures is the one I'd be most likely to accept. It has somewhat outlived its usefulness as Ravenloft has knitted together into a world. I suspect you'd like a lot of what's been done in 3e then, if you haven't read it. And they've done this without dumping the demiplane. Filing away the rough edges and making the world live as one has clearly been a goal of the recent products. Indeed, but even in Lamordia, they don't have weather satellites or computer weather modelling. Fledgling meteorologists are surely making measurements with rudimentary barometers and thermometers (Galileo made his near the turn of the 17th century, and Lamordia's tech isn't too much further along than that at CL9, ~1550-1700AD). Maybe they're just starting to wonder why their cold winters aren't completely explained by elevation. But it's a long way from there to "magical Dark Powers did it." And even then, the Lamordians accept the Mists as the source of all matter (see Gazetteer II). In a world where magic and science exist, science must view magic as another natural phenomenon that isn't yet fully explained. Yup, and that's just fine. I'm only trying to point out how long-term campaigns in Ravenloft can and do work for some, despite those points. [/QUOTE]
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