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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&amp;nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9501111"><p>I am not questioning the enthusiasm or interest of new fans. But older fans who grew up on the 90s setting material, are going to have a different set of expectations than newer ones (especially if WOTC radically changes core elements of the setting). We are still free to give our opinions and criticisms. To me, the Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft looked very solidly made, but so many choices went against what I think of Ravenlnoft being. The biggest one would be the shift from Gothic horror to multi genre. Now people might prefer that, and people might see it as an improvement. That is fair. However it does mean the setting isn't a gothic horror setting anymore, it is now a much broader range of horror. Same with making lands into islands and not having the core. Technically it is all within cannon, but it does mean the setting is going to play very different and if you see the core as being essential, then it isn't same. It is possible for people to have different opinions on the same thing. Someone like me might find the new Ravenoft setting to be a pale imitation of the original, others might find the new version to be superior. Same with the art. I think this art is absolutely&nbsp; not in the spirit of Ravenloft or even a horror cover. To me it looks more like a horror comedy cover, or an urban fantasy cover. And the attitude of the characters feels completely wrong for a horror mood to me. But I am not the final say on those things. This is just my opinion. Me expressing it, isn't me passing judgment on people who like it (heck when I first got into Ravenloft fans of the original module used to crap on the setting all the time: it was their opinion, I understood where they were coming from but disagreed).</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 9501111"] I am not questioning the enthusiasm or interest of new fans. But older fans who grew up on the 90s setting material, are going to have a different set of expectations than newer ones (especially if WOTC radically changes core elements of the setting). We are still free to give our opinions and criticisms. To me, the Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft looked very solidly made, but so many choices went against what I think of Ravenlnoft being. The biggest one would be the shift from Gothic horror to multi genre. Now people might prefer that, and people might see it as an improvement. That is fair. However it does mean the setting isn't a gothic horror setting anymore, it is now a much broader range of horror. Same with making lands into islands and not having the core. Technically it is all within cannon, but it does mean the setting is going to play very different and if you see the core as being essential, then it isn't same. It is possible for people to have different opinions on the same thing. Someone like me might find the new Ravenoft setting to be a pale imitation of the original, others might find the new version to be superior. Same with the art. I think this art is absolutely not in the spirit of Ravenloft or even a horror cover. To me it looks more like a horror comedy cover, or an urban fantasy cover. And the attitude of the characters feels completely wrong for a horror mood to me. But I am not the final say on those things. This is just my opinion. Me expressing it, isn't me passing judgment on people who like it (heck when I first got into Ravenloft fans of the original module used to crap on the setting all the time: it was their opinion, I understood where they were coming from but disagreed). [/QUOTE]

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