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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Not a Decepticon" data-source="post: 9501551" data-attributes="member: 7020527">No, I'm not using an edition that has those rules, nor do I feel it would be in any way beneficial, especially when those characters left early on.The thing is you can voice these complaints without having to shoehorn in some stupid nickname for new Ravenloft. It comes across as condescending to new fans and kinda annoying because every time you use it you are basically saying "This is not REAAAAAL Ravenloft I Won't Shut Up About it!".And I remember when I got this book and Vampire in the Mists I knew nothing about the characters and honestly ,covers did not speak to me at all. I've only gotten them because I knew Ravenloft was d&d and Dark Sun was d&d but they didn't have Dark Sun books I was trying to get. If I knew Shadowrun is an RPG I may have walked out of the store with one of Shadowrun novels, the covers never mattered.It's always an annoying issue with people who want to run a "dark" game, that they feel the need to make every peasant/commonner NPC a small-minded, bigoted naughty word, who at best looks down on the PCs and is openly hostile at worst. They want a gritty feel, but what they get instead is the players who are sick and annoyed of being treated like dirt by people who also feel entitled to their help. And then DM gets mad their players become murderhobos and kill every npc.Also, even in Barovia you have literal procession of ghosts of past slain adventurers making a long line towards Castle Ravenloft every night. If adventurers are as common as this implies, people in Barovia would have seen it all, even the plasmoid or tri-kreen. They shouldn't be scared and bigoted, they should be jaded. Less "GAH! What is that thing?! Get away from me!" And more "I remember when a group just like yours came here when I was a boy. Their big guy was green and had tusks and their small guy wasn't green but had beard on their feet. Didn't do them any better, the devil Strahd got them all."And then the party is supposed to help these naughty words why again?You know, I kinda realized that what you desire from Ravenloft is essentially counterproductive to running an actual Ravenloft campaign. Because if you want to use Ravenloft as a "weekend in hell" style game. If people react with fear, mistrust and disgust to everything aside the boring standard of humans, humans with pointy ears, short humans with beards on their faces or short humans with beards on their feet, it simutaniously becomes enticing to play all other races if you want to experience that sort of prejudice in a roleplaying scenario, which is why some people pick Tieflings or Orcs or Drow...and tedious forlong-term game. However, in a short interjection adventure, it becomes very interesting. In fact, the party from the cover is PERFECT for the "weekend in hell" style games WotC wants Ravenloft to be.You're literally judging a book by its cover.</blockquote>

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