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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Paul Farquhar" data-source="post: 9501803" data-attributes="member: 6906155">I do think there tends to be a lots of "just look at how tragic my character is, aren't they cool" when it comes to 2e Ravenloft. As I mentioned earlier, that was very much a 90s thing, people trying to outdo each other with how grimdark they can get.Not something that is popular amongst folk who did not grow up in the 90s*. I found my players hated the very idea of Ravenloft, several of them reporting bad experiences. I was able to win them over with Hammer Horror tropes and the sense that the good guys could win. They play D&D to be cheered up, not depressed.*And, as someone who grew up in the 80s, I loved the original two adventures (both of which were written in a way that the PCs were expected to win), but hated the 2e boxed set and grimdark railroad adventures.</blockquote>