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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8263651" data-attributes="member: 93670">Tools are good, but they shouldn't be the first last &amp; only safety measure of responsibly keeping everyone safe.&nbsp; Even the most gregarious extroverted karen can feel reluctant to slam on the breaks in the moment when friends &amp; people they consider peers are having fun. Using a &quot;karen&quot; as an example isn't a slight on anyone, it just show that it's a problem even confrontational people can encounter.&nbsp; When people are told that a problem mostly only affects a group of people they don't consider themselves a member they will resist admitting they are the exception.The rest of the group needs to make up for those kinds of blind spots &amp; weaknesses in tools. Someone who might feel uncomfortable needs to cooperate in letting them do that.&nbsp; People being checked on have a responsibility to pull back from their character enough to be clear&nbsp; when someone is checking on them.&nbsp; There are probably other good ways of doing it, but this is one regularly employed in other communities where consent is important.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8263651, member: 93670"] Tools are good, but they shouldn't be the first last & only safety measure of responsibly keeping everyone safe. Even the most gregarious extroverted karen can feel reluctant to slam on the breaks in the moment when friends & people they consider peers are having fun. Using a "karen" as an example isn't a slight on anyone, it just show that it's a problem even confrontational people can encounter. When people are told that a problem mostly only affects a group of people they don't consider themselves a member they will resist admitting they are the exception. The rest of the group needs to make up for those kinds of blind spots & weaknesses in tools. Someone who might feel uncomfortable needs to cooperate in letting them do that. People being checked on have a responsibility to pull back from their character enough to be clear when someone is checking on them. There are probably other good ways of doing it, but this is one regularly employed in other communities where consent is important. [/QUOTE]

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