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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7753833" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Grouping replies so I'm not spamming the thread with my negativity and snarkiness...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Right. And they managed to do that without a dedicated product.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, but you want to release products that appeal to both groups. Old players <em>and</em> new players. You can't just try and appeal solely to new players and trust your old audience will keep buying the books.</p><p>(That was one of the weaknesses with 4e. They focused entirely on getting new people and just assumed the existing fans would keep buying.)</p><p></p><p>* * * </p><p></p><p></p><p>They make and plan products two years in advance.</p><p></p><p>Right now, the spring 2019 product is probably written and in playtesting, and the other two are in planning with art being ordered. Especially for the key storyline that has to tie into the board games and video games, as work on that for those products has to start, well, right now. </p><p>And the 2020 products have been outlined and likely planned. They're on a board somewhere. But probably subject to change if necessary. </p><p></p><p>If they release this book and it craters, it's too late to really change their plans for Spring 2019. That book will have been done. If it's a similar book, that's going to hurt. </p><p>AND even if Ravnica does well, they don't want to cut into its sales right away. The books for the next year will be different so they don't compete with it. </p><p>Like how it took two years to have more class content between <em>Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide</em> and <em>Guide to Everything</em> and eighteen months for them to follow up on <em>Volo's Guide to Monsters</em>, with the <em>Tomb of Foes</em> (and the only reason the latter wasn't a full two years was because they decided to move the spring adventure to the fall). </p><p></p><p>So, the earliest we'll see a new hardcover setting book will likely be November 2020. </p><p></p><p>But... that's even assuming they want to do another book that competes with Ravnica at all. Because you really don't need more than a couple settings, and between that and the Realms (and 3rd Party stuff), the fans are set. They know it takes a year to go through a full campaign, and you can have two or three campaigns easily in a setting like Ravnica. So they could <em>easily</em> push it to 2021 or 2022 before considering a new campaign setting book. </p><p></p><p>But, at that point, the edition has been out for eight years, and they're likely more focused on experimental stuff than updating classic setting.</p><p></p><p>* * * </p><p></p><p></p><p>See above for why I think that's unlikely for a while. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Given the shipping weight, this is likely going to be a pretty slender volume. Likely 160-pages or less. </p><p>Maybe they'll leave the starter adventures for the Guild Adepts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7753833, member: 37579"] Grouping replies so I'm not spamming the thread with my negativity and snarkiness... Right. And they managed to do that without a dedicated product. Yes, but you want to release products that appeal to both groups. Old players [I]and[/I] new players. You can't just try and appeal solely to new players and trust your old audience will keep buying the books. (That was one of the weaknesses with 4e. They focused entirely on getting new people and just assumed the existing fans would keep buying.) * * * They make and plan products two years in advance. Right now, the spring 2019 product is probably written and in playtesting, and the other two are in planning with art being ordered. Especially for the key storyline that has to tie into the board games and video games, as work on that for those products has to start, well, right now. And the 2020 products have been outlined and likely planned. They're on a board somewhere. But probably subject to change if necessary. If they release this book and it craters, it's too late to really change their plans for Spring 2019. That book will have been done. If it's a similar book, that's going to hurt. AND even if Ravnica does well, they don't want to cut into its sales right away. The books for the next year will be different so they don't compete with it. Like how it took two years to have more class content between [I]Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide[/I] and [I]Guide to Everything[/I] and eighteen months for them to follow up on [I]Volo's Guide to Monsters[/I], with the [I]Tomb of Foes[/I] (and the only reason the latter wasn't a full two years was because they decided to move the spring adventure to the fall). So, the earliest we'll see a new hardcover setting book will likely be November 2020. But... that's even assuming they want to do another book that competes with Ravnica at all. Because you really don't need more than a couple settings, and between that and the Realms (and 3rd Party stuff), the fans are set. They know it takes a year to go through a full campaign, and you can have two or three campaigns easily in a setting like Ravnica. So they could [I]easily[/I] push it to 2021 or 2022 before considering a new campaign setting book. But, at that point, the edition has been out for eight years, and they're likely more focused on experimental stuff than updating classic setting. * * * See above for why I think that's unlikely for a while. Given the shipping weight, this is likely going to be a pretty slender volume. Likely 160-pages or less. Maybe they'll leave the starter adventures for the Guild Adepts. [/QUOTE]
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