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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1066071" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>One interesting thing about Ray of Exhaustion is that even if they have a Fort Save of +55 and have never failed a Fort Save in their lives, two castings <em>will</em> make them exhausted.</p><p></p><p>On the first successful save, they become fatigued. On the second successful save, they become fatigued again... and when you're already fatigued, anything that <em>would[i/] make you fatigued instead makes you exhausted (and this effect is explicitly noted in the spell description).</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>So if you're already fatigued, on a failed save, the spell makes you exhausted, and a successful save... makes you exhausted.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Stacking an exhaustion -6 penalty with a (1d6+5) x1.5 - an average of -12, for an average total of -18 - takes one round, two 3rd level slots and a 7th level slot at 17th level, or three rounds and three 3rd level slots for an average of -13 at 5th level. (And three ranged touch attacks, SR applies, of course, but saves are irrelevant.)</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>-Hyp.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1066071, member: 1656"] One interesting thing about Ray of Exhaustion is that even if they have a Fort Save of +55 and have never failed a Fort Save in their lives, two castings [i]will[/i] make them exhausted. On the first successful save, they become fatigued. On the second successful save, they become fatigued again... and when you're already fatigued, anything that [i]would[i/] make you fatigued instead makes you exhausted (and this effect is explicitly noted in the spell description). So if you're already fatigued, on a failed save, the spell makes you exhausted, and a successful save... makes you exhausted. Stacking an exhaustion -6 penalty with a (1d6+5) x1.5 - an average of -12, for an average total of -18 - takes one round, two 3rd level slots and a 7th level slot at 17th level, or three rounds and three 3rd level slots for an average of -13 at 5th level. (And three ranged touch attacks, SR applies, of course, but saves are irrelevant.) -Hyp.[/i] [/QUOTE]
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