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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1601798" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>That makes it a question of the FAQ explicitly contradicting the core rules then. The 3.5 PHB, p. 174 says:</p><p></p><p><em>A spell that takes 1 round to cast is a full-round action. It comes into effect just before the beginning of your turn in the round after you began casting the spell. You then act normally after the spell is completed.</em></p><p></p><p>Thus there is an explicit contradiction between the FAQ "quicker than a 1-round casting time" and the PHB which identifies a one round casting time as "a full round action." Either way, any arguments that assume the truth of all implications of both statements exactly as worded are going to be highly implausible (for instance, a full round action is quicker than a 1-round casting time but a 1-round casting time isn't more than a full-round action).</p><p></p><p>However, if one considers the context of the FAQ question, it appears in the context of a question asking when a spontaneous caster's metamagicked spell comes or a coup de grace comes into effect. Thus it is possible to narrowly construe the FAQ answer to be about the timing of effects and the PHB statement (found in the "casting time" section) to be about casting time. The 1-round casting time spell doesn't take longer than a full-round action to cast (thus making it eligable for Quicken Spell) but does (as the FAQ notes) take longer to come into effect.</p><p></p><p>I think that it is probably best to construe the FAQ narrowly in general. Otherwise, you end up with absurdities like the interpretations of the 3.0 FAQ that said, since the FAQ says that a ten foot pole oriented diagonally only takes up one square and the description of a reach weapon specifies that it may not attack adjacent targets, a reach weapon may not attack on the diagonal at all. Since the FAQ does not go through as rigorous an editing process as the PHB, I suggest that it's best to narrowly construe FAQ answers so as to avoid contradicting the PHB whenever possible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 1601798, member: 3146"] That makes it a question of the FAQ explicitly contradicting the core rules then. The 3.5 PHB, p. 174 says: [i]A spell that takes 1 round to cast is a full-round action. It comes into effect just before the beginning of your turn in the round after you began casting the spell. You then act normally after the spell is completed.[/i] Thus there is an explicit contradiction between the FAQ "quicker than a 1-round casting time" and the PHB which identifies a one round casting time as "a full round action." Either way, any arguments that assume the truth of all implications of both statements exactly as worded are going to be highly implausible (for instance, a full round action is quicker than a 1-round casting time but a 1-round casting time isn't more than a full-round action). However, if one considers the context of the FAQ question, it appears in the context of a question asking when a spontaneous caster's metamagicked spell comes or a coup de grace comes into effect. Thus it is possible to narrowly construe the FAQ answer to be about the timing of effects and the PHB statement (found in the "casting time" section) to be about casting time. The 1-round casting time spell doesn't take longer than a full-round action to cast (thus making it eligable for Quicken Spell) but does (as the FAQ notes) take longer to come into effect. I think that it is probably best to construe the FAQ narrowly in general. Otherwise, you end up with absurdities like the interpretations of the 3.0 FAQ that said, since the FAQ says that a ten foot pole oriented diagonally only takes up one square and the description of a reach weapon specifies that it may not attack adjacent targets, a reach weapon may not attack on the diagonal at all. Since the FAQ does not go through as rigorous an editing process as the PHB, I suggest that it's best to narrowly construe FAQ answers so as to avoid contradicting the PHB whenever possible. [/QUOTE]
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