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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 7976445" data-attributes="member: 18">Re: the incident, if you keep digging you'll find some comments directly from Mearls that show it was distinctly more than "guilt by association", sadly (at the least it was extremely poor judgement). Not going to dig that all up in a thread about Winniger though. There's another thread on this forum where I posted the links.He was also in charge of 4E from 2009 onwards, and that didn't go so well, so I have to wonder how much of 5E's success is connected to him, and how much to all the other people who work on it, and WotC/Hasbro marketing, and to some degree of simple luck (Critical Role becoming "cool", 20-somethings getting bored of staring at their phone all day and wanting activities which were more face-to-face, and so on).I hadn't and it's actually fascinating.[URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Winninger[/URL]I assumed he was more recent (looking good for his age I guess!) and was more of a management type, but wow definitely not, he's one of the co-creators of Torg and he designed Underground, which was an incredibly daring RPG at the time, which I still think about from time to time (really super-cool too). He's also had a fairly senior role at Microsoft. So his resume is really remarkable, and covers all the ground.</blockquote>