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Re-Imagining the D&D Planes as MtG Color Pie
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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 8024526" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>Moving on to how to align the Magic color wheel with the Great Wheel... aligning each color to the D&D plane that best represents that color's ideals, I would say:</p><p></p><p>White: Mount Celestia (LG)</p><p>Blue: Mechanus (LN)</p><p>Black: Gray Waste (NE)</p><p>Red: Ysgard (CN/CG)</p><p>Green: Beastlands (CG/NG)</p><p></p><p>In this arrangement, some colors are "stretched" while others are "squidged." The gap between black and red is enormous, spanning Carceri, the Abyss, Pandemonium, and Limbo, while the gap between white and blue consists of Arcadia and nothing else. That's to be expected--the alignment system of Magic and the alignment system of D&D emphasize different things, so distinctions that loom large in D&D are trivial in Magic and vice versa.</p><p></p><p>However, what stands out to me is that the overall ordering is the same. If you go around the Great Wheel, you hit the colors in the same order as in the Magic color wheel. And I didn't have to force that--I just picked the planes that seemed to best match the colors, and lo and behold, they were in the right order.</p><p></p><p>Next I tried the ally-color guilds. Here is what feels most natural to me for those:</p><p></p><p>Azorius: Arcadia (LG/LN)</p><p>Dimir: Carceri (CN/CE)</p><p>Rakdos: The Abyss (CE)</p><p>Gruul: Ysgard (CN/CG)</p><p>Selesnya: Elysium (NG)</p><p></p><p>Again, they are in the right order, so that's nice. However, they don't fall in neatly with the single-color planes. The Dimir plane (Carceri) is not between the Blue and Black planes (Mechanus and the Gray Waste), and Gruul is competing with pure Red for the plane of Ysgard.</p><p></p><p>The enemy-color guilds don't line up well at all. I can think of no plane that seems like a good fit for any of them. So I would focus on single color or ally-color planes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 8024526, member: 58197"] Moving on to how to align the Magic color wheel with the Great Wheel... aligning each color to the D&D plane that best represents that color's ideals, I would say: White: Mount Celestia (LG) Blue: Mechanus (LN) Black: Gray Waste (NE) Red: Ysgard (CN/CG) Green: Beastlands (CG/NG) In this arrangement, some colors are "stretched" while others are "squidged." The gap between black and red is enormous, spanning Carceri, the Abyss, Pandemonium, and Limbo, while the gap between white and blue consists of Arcadia and nothing else. That's to be expected--the alignment system of Magic and the alignment system of D&D emphasize different things, so distinctions that loom large in D&D are trivial in Magic and vice versa. However, what stands out to me is that the overall ordering is the same. If you go around the Great Wheel, you hit the colors in the same order as in the Magic color wheel. And I didn't have to force that--I just picked the planes that seemed to best match the colors, and lo and behold, they were in the right order. Next I tried the ally-color guilds. Here is what feels most natural to me for those: Azorius: Arcadia (LG/LN) Dimir: Carceri (CN/CE) Rakdos: The Abyss (CE) Gruul: Ysgard (CN/CG) Selesnya: Elysium (NG) Again, they are in the right order, so that's nice. However, they don't fall in neatly with the single-color planes. The Dimir plane (Carceri) is not between the Blue and Black planes (Mechanus and the Gray Waste), and Gruul is competing with pure Red for the plane of Ysgard. The enemy-color guilds don't line up well at all. I can think of no plane that seems like a good fit for any of them. So I would focus on single color or ally-color planes. [/QUOTE]
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