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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1500649" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>Hiyas!</p><p></p><p>Since I am not very happy about the balance aspects of the XPH, as some of you might have noticed by now <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />, I thought about how to tone down the psion to keep him more in line with the PHB stuff. Comments welcome! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p><strong>Power Points / Day:</strong></p><p></p><p>1st 3</p><p>2nd 4</p><p>3rd 7</p><p>4th 11</p><p>5th 16</p><p>6th 24</p><p>7th 32</p><p>8th 44</p><p>9th 56</p><p>10th 72</p><p>11th 88</p><p>12th 108</p><p>13th 128</p><p>14th 152</p><p>15th 176</p><p>16th 204</p><p>17th 232</p><p>18th 264</p><p>19th 294</p><p>20th 326</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Note: This is simply the wizard spells per day table translated into power points per day (ignoring specialization bonuses). It will result in psions having less powers per day than wizards, given the fact, that they need to augment them quite a bit. In exchange they have the added flexibility which allows them to manifest much more high level powers (augmented or not).</span></p><p></p><p><strong>Powers Known (Maximum Level):</strong></p><p></p><p>1st 3 (1st)</p><p>2nd 4 (1st)</p><p>3rd 5 (1st)</p><p>4th 7 (2nd)</p><p>5th 9 (2nd)</p><p>6th 10 (3rd)</p><p>7th 12 (3rd)</p><p>8th 13 (4th)</p><p>9th 15 (4th)</p><p>10th 16 (5th)</p><p>11th 17 (5th)</p><p>12th 18 (6th)</p><p>13th 19 (6th)</p><p>14th 20 (7th)</p><p>15th 21 (7th)</p><p>16th 22 (8th)</p><p>17th 23 (8th)</p><p>18th 24 (9th)</p><p>19th 25 (9th)</p><p>20th 26 (9th)</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Note: Quite a few less, since many of the low level powers scale in level and are thus additional high level powers. Also many of their powers are 2-in-1 or even better compared to spells, thus it seems appropriate to have psions learn fewer total powers.</span></p><p></p><p><strong>Stat dependancy:</strong></p><p></p><p>Psions derive extra PP / Day from a high Intelligence score, however, the save DC of their powers is based on their Charisma score.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Note: This actually sounds worse than it really is. It shifts the primary stat over to Charisma and while a super-high Intelligence is surely nice, you don't really need it. It keeps the extreme flexibility in check somewhat, since the bonus PP / Day are more costly that way.</span></p><p></p><p><strong>Bonus Feats:</strong></p><p></p><p>Psions can choose only from the following bonus feats: any Metapsionic feat, any Psionic Item Creation feat, Expanded Knowledge, Psicrystal Affinity, Improved Psicrystal, Psicrystal Containment, Psionic Meditation, Psionic Talent.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Note: More similar to the wizard (and still quite a bonus compared to the sorcerer). Expanded Knowledge and Psionic Talent are there to limit the impact of the reduced PP / Power tables, Psionic Meditation to allow them to keep up with the arcane casters in terms of metapsionic/metamagic usage.</span></p><p></p><p><strong>Changes to existing Feats / Powers:</strong></p><p></p><p><em>Expanded Knowledge:</em> The character can only choose powers he could normally learn.</p><p><em>Power Penetration / Greater Power Penetration:</em> +2 / +4 bonus to defeat power resistance as long as the character is psionically focused.</p><p><em>Psionic Endowment / Greater Psionic Endowment:</em> +1 / +2 bonus to DC of all powers of a chosen discipline as long as the character is psionically focused.</p><p><em>Dispel Psionics:</em> Augmentation: +6 PP to increase the maximum bonus from manifester level to +20.</p><p><em>Greater Metamorphosis:</em> HD limit is equal to manifester level (max 25 HD), not twice that much.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Note: I'm sure this list is not finished yet. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></span></p><p></p><p><strong>The following Feats / Powers / Items are unavailable:</strong></p><p></p><p>- Metamorphic Transfer</p><p>- Quicken Power</p><p>- Schism</p><p>- Psionatrix of <discipline></p><p>- Torc of power preservation</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Note: Also thought about Psionic Meditation, but since the really bad thing about that one is the use of Quicken Power only, it seems more reasonable to do away with that one (no spontaneously quickened spells... no spontaneously quickened powers), and it allows more decent use of metapsionics, which are then in line with the sorcerer (full-round action), and since the psion has bonus feats, it's also fair enough, that he has to choose a feat to get to the same level here.</span></p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1500649, member: 478"] Hiyas! Since I am not very happy about the balance aspects of the XPH, as some of you might have noticed by now ;), I thought about how to tone down the psion to keep him more in line with the PHB stuff. Comments welcome! :D [b]Power Points / Day:[/b] 1st 3 2nd 4 3rd 7 4th 11 5th 16 6th 24 7th 32 8th 44 9th 56 10th 72 11th 88 12th 108 13th 128 14th 152 15th 176 16th 204 17th 232 18th 264 19th 294 20th 326 [size=1]Note: This is simply the wizard spells per day table translated into power points per day (ignoring specialization bonuses). It will result in psions having less powers per day than wizards, given the fact, that they need to augment them quite a bit. In exchange they have the added flexibility which allows them to manifest much more high level powers (augmented or not).[/size] [b]Powers Known (Maximum Level):[/b] 1st 3 (1st) 2nd 4 (1st) 3rd 5 (1st) 4th 7 (2nd) 5th 9 (2nd) 6th 10 (3rd) 7th 12 (3rd) 8th 13 (4th) 9th 15 (4th) 10th 16 (5th) 11th 17 (5th) 12th 18 (6th) 13th 19 (6th) 14th 20 (7th) 15th 21 (7th) 16th 22 (8th) 17th 23 (8th) 18th 24 (9th) 19th 25 (9th) 20th 26 (9th) [size=1]Note: Quite a few less, since many of the low level powers scale in level and are thus additional high level powers. Also many of their powers are 2-in-1 or even better compared to spells, thus it seems appropriate to have psions learn fewer total powers.[/size] [b]Stat dependancy:[/b] Psions derive extra PP / Day from a high Intelligence score, however, the save DC of their powers is based on their Charisma score. [size=1]Note: This actually sounds worse than it really is. It shifts the primary stat over to Charisma and while a super-high Intelligence is surely nice, you don't really need it. It keeps the extreme flexibility in check somewhat, since the bonus PP / Day are more costly that way.[/size] [b]Bonus Feats:[/b] Psions can choose only from the following bonus feats: any Metapsionic feat, any Psionic Item Creation feat, Expanded Knowledge, Psicrystal Affinity, Improved Psicrystal, Psicrystal Containment, Psionic Meditation, Psionic Talent. [size=1]Note: More similar to the wizard (and still quite a bonus compared to the sorcerer). Expanded Knowledge and Psionic Talent are there to limit the impact of the reduced PP / Power tables, Psionic Meditation to allow them to keep up with the arcane casters in terms of metapsionic/metamagic usage.[/size] [b]Changes to existing Feats / Powers:[/b] [i]Expanded Knowledge:[/i] The character can only choose powers he could normally learn. [i]Power Penetration / Greater Power Penetration:[/i] +2 / +4 bonus to defeat power resistance as long as the character is psionically focused. [i]Psionic Endowment / Greater Psionic Endowment:[/i] +1 / +2 bonus to DC of all powers of a chosen discipline as long as the character is psionically focused. [i]Dispel Psionics:[/i] Augmentation: +6 PP to increase the maximum bonus from manifester level to +20. [i]Greater Metamorphosis:[/i] HD limit is equal to manifester level (max 25 HD), not twice that much. [size=1]Note: I'm sure this list is not finished yet. ;)[/size] [b]The following Feats / Powers / Items are unavailable:[/b] - Metamorphic Transfer - Quicken Power - Schism - Psionatrix of <discipline> - Torc of power preservation [size=1]Note: Also thought about Psionic Meditation, but since the really bad thing about that one is the use of Quicken Power only, it seems more reasonable to do away with that one (no spontaneously quickened spells... no spontaneously quickened powers), and it allows more decent use of metapsionics, which are then in line with the sorcerer (full-round action), and since the psion has bonus feats, it's also fair enough, that he has to choose a feat to get to the same level here.[/size] Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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