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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1503212" data-attributes="member: 478">A few comments on that one.Your point on the PP and Power reduction is surely valid. While the PP table isn't that much worse than the one in the book, really, that will be considered.The big problem with their flexibility is, that at higher and higher levels, the disadvantage of being able to manifest fewer total powers lessens, while the advantage of manifesting more of ones highest level powers increases even further.With the reduced number of powers, they will still end up with a better selection than the sorcerer, btw, since they can use all their low level powers to good effect at higher levels, which the sorcerer won't be able to.Penetration / Endowment: Why the change... to have it more in line with the PHB. Otherwise they are slightly too powerful (still having the disadvantage that they don't work together, which also gets removed here) with Psionic Meditation (which psions basically get for free considering their bonus feats - and you have to compare those with the sorcerer, not the wizard, because of the spontaneous casting/manifesting!) and too weak without. They also simply feel better as passive abilities compared to active IMHO.Psionatrix: Stuff that adds to DC got removed in 3.5. All stuff, but focus feats. This one has to go, too.Torc: Look it up and think about it for a moment. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />About Quicken / Schism: Show me one other spontaneous caster or spontaneous casting ability, which works with Quicken! There is none... that's why. With Quicken + Psionic Meditation or with Schism they can do it every round... with both even twice!Summary: I honestly don't think this is going too far, maybe the PP reduction (because of the augmentation issues, altho that's partially balanced by the extreme flexibility, which must have a price somewhere, therefore psions must have a significantly lower number of manifestations per day compared to a sorcerer - they still can do more of the important high level stuff anyways, because of the flexibility). I actually think, that even with all those changes, psions will still be at the top end. They will have some distinct and noteable disadvantages to counter their immense advantages, however. They cannot be equal (or similar, since they are working quite a bit different) to arcane casters in every way and have tons of advantages in addition. That's unbalanced.ByeThanee</blockquote>

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