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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 6678205" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>I was never an Iron Man fan at all, which is why Downey is so good - he makes the movies so enjoyable, even if you're not an Iron Man fan.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Two things. I think MCU works better as a whole because they planned it as a whole - with the phases and such. X-Men was planned more like the comics were written, with lots of retconning and craziness.</p><p></p><p>I sometimes wonder if The Last Stand was so bad because of folks like myself (and presumably you) that were imprinted by the Dark Phoenix saga, which in my mind is one of the greatest comic story arcs ever. That and the fact that X2 was so damn good. But yeah, X-Men 3 was one of the great nerd disappointments in media history, imo, perhaps only equalled by the horror that was Phantom Menace.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I watched the first few episodes of Daredevil and thought it was OK, but don't love it. I'm leery of Agent Carter because I generally don't like stories set in the past of a main story line...it feels too much like you know how things are going to turn out.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, I hear that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is probably why I liked it - more psychological depth, more origin story stuff, less all-out smashing. Smashing is fun, but gets a bit boring after awhile.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Totally agree - she was just too googly-eyed over Thor the whole time, with little agency of her own.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, I also agree that Hawkeye was a bit bland or lacking something. Maybe it was the whole possession thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree - it is a variation, or thinly-veiled version of Deux Ex Machina. I mean, even the Chitauri army wasn't quite as all-powerful as it could have been and just too easily defeated. Iron Man just pushes a nuke into that ship? Too easy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Haha, well I'd have to watch Agents of Shield to form a judgment on that. But we can assume that he went and got nachos with Captain America off screen, no?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tough crowd, Morrus! You use some strong words, like "awful" and such. I'm wondering if you are holding too high of a standard to these movies, or is it that you just aren't crazy about comic book movies, or comparing them to your own idea of the characters? Etc.</p><p></p><p>That said, I agree with a lot of what you said, just with a milder feeling about them. Oh yeah, I think Guardians of the Galaxy was overrated. It was pretty good, but I don't get the complete love people have for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 6678205, member: 59082"] I was never an Iron Man fan at all, which is why Downey is so good - he makes the movies so enjoyable, even if you're not an Iron Man fan. Two things. I think MCU works better as a whole because they planned it as a whole - with the phases and such. X-Men was planned more like the comics were written, with lots of retconning and craziness. I sometimes wonder if The Last Stand was so bad because of folks like myself (and presumably you) that were imprinted by the Dark Phoenix saga, which in my mind is one of the greatest comic story arcs ever. That and the fact that X2 was so damn good. But yeah, X-Men 3 was one of the great nerd disappointments in media history, imo, perhaps only equalled by the horror that was Phantom Menace. I watched the first few episodes of Daredevil and thought it was OK, but don't love it. I'm leery of Agent Carter because I generally don't like stories set in the past of a main story line...it feels too much like you know how things are going to turn out. Yeah, I hear that. Which is probably why I liked it - more psychological depth, more origin story stuff, less all-out smashing. Smashing is fun, but gets a bit boring after awhile. Totally agree - she was just too googly-eyed over Thor the whole time, with little agency of her own. Yeah, I also agree that Hawkeye was a bit bland or lacking something. Maybe it was the whole possession thing. I agree - it is a variation, or thinly-veiled version of Deux Ex Machina. I mean, even the Chitauri army wasn't quite as all-powerful as it could have been and just too easily defeated. Iron Man just pushes a nuke into that ship? Too easy. Haha, well I'd have to watch Agents of Shield to form a judgment on that. But we can assume that he went and got nachos with Captain America off screen, no? Tough crowd, Morrus! You use some strong words, like "awful" and such. I'm wondering if you are holding too high of a standard to these movies, or is it that you just aren't crazy about comic book movies, or comparing them to your own idea of the characters? Etc. That said, I agree with a lot of what you said, just with a milder feeling about them. Oh yeah, I think Guardians of the Galaxy was overrated. It was pretty good, but I don't get the complete love people have for it. [/QUOTE]
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