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<blockquote data-quote="Zenbryo" data-source="post: 5308532" data-attributes="member: 94699"><p>As for how the big fellow got so huge, I decided to run a monster game. He's an Ogre Psychic Warrior. He basically built his character on reach and AoO, so I really don't want to screw him. But, at the moment, some of it confuses me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So Goblin 1 ENTERING a Player 1 threatened square to attack Player 2 shouldn't provoke an AoO from anyone, but if Goblin 1 MOVES THROUGH any of Player 1's threatened squares, than Player 1 gets a shot?</p><p></p><p>Or, an easier example: Two Regular, Medium sized players with no reach are standing side-by-side. We'll call them Hank and Scott. Now, if Goblin 2 moves into a square to attack Hank, which also is a square Scott threatens, does Scott get an AoO? I don't think he does, right?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, no, of course not. I understand the whole "threatened square thing," it just seems odd to me, from a logic standpoint, that if Goblin 1 is approaching Player 2 with his spear at the ready, engaging in combat (which is what AoOs AREN'T about, they're for characters taking reckless action in combat), Player 2 doesn't get an AoO. </p><p></p><p>This makes sense, as the Goblin is ready, willing, and able to fight. It just seems odd to me that Player 1, standing essentially BEHIND Player 2 gets a shot at the same Goblin who is wading into combat, weapon at the ready, if Player 2 doesn't get that same opportunity. I mean, in theory, the Goblin sees Player 1, understands his huge polearm-y reach, etc.</p><p></p><p>I'm totally cool with being wrong Rules-As-Written wise, I just don't understand the strategic side of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zenbryo, post: 5308532, member: 94699"] As for how the big fellow got so huge, I decided to run a monster game. He's an Ogre Psychic Warrior. He basically built his character on reach and AoO, so I really don't want to screw him. But, at the moment, some of it confuses me. So Goblin 1 ENTERING a Player 1 threatened square to attack Player 2 shouldn't provoke an AoO from anyone, but if Goblin 1 MOVES THROUGH any of Player 1's threatened squares, than Player 1 gets a shot? Or, an easier example: Two Regular, Medium sized players with no reach are standing side-by-side. We'll call them Hank and Scott. Now, if Goblin 2 moves into a square to attack Hank, which also is a square Scott threatens, does Scott get an AoO? I don't think he does, right? Well, no, of course not. I understand the whole "threatened square thing," it just seems odd to me, from a logic standpoint, that if Goblin 1 is approaching Player 2 with his spear at the ready, engaging in combat (which is what AoOs AREN'T about, they're for characters taking reckless action in combat), Player 2 doesn't get an AoO. This makes sense, as the Goblin is ready, willing, and able to fight. It just seems odd to me that Player 1, standing essentially BEHIND Player 2 gets a shot at the same Goblin who is wading into combat, weapon at the ready, if Player 2 doesn't get that same opportunity. I mean, in theory, the Goblin sees Player 1, understands his huge polearm-y reach, etc. I'm totally cool with being wrong Rules-As-Written wise, I just don't understand the strategic side of it. [/QUOTE]
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