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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bestone" data-source="post: 3353163" data-attributes="member: 48880">I see no table that "clearly" excludes sunder from attacks of opportunityi see one that shows standard actions and has sunder listedSunder a weapon (attack)The brackets part... (attack) is because its an attack, and an attack is a standard actionAs far as im concerned, ON Aoo's you can make melee attacks, you can use sunder in place of your your melee attack *as per the TEXT in sunder*. If its not on some table of things you can *but i highly doubt it says are the only things you can* do. It doesnt matter, you can make a melee attack, and sunder can be used as your melee attackBy your logic, a melee attack is listed as a standard action, so what now? your telling me it cant be used as an attack of opportunity? of course it can, because the TEXT says otherwisetext > tablesThere is absolutely nothing saying you can not sunder on an attack of opportunity. Your reading into it too much, if you had multiple attacks, you could make multiple sunderssunder is a melee attack, melee attacks are standard actions, you can still make a melee attack on an attack of opportunityOh wait, but you rationalize your "logic" by saying sunder is the only one on that table, trip grapple and disarm arent!Well take a moment and actually think about thisDing!Trip grapple and disarm, like they say in the text, are entirely different forms of attacks, they dont use your melee attack to do them, they use a seperate different attack entirely, you make a touch attack and an opposed roll. And the action type varies because they have different uses, other than just in place of a melee attack.They can be standard actions too...</blockquote>

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