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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bestone" data-source="post: 3353688" data-attributes="member: 48880">text overrules tables, does it not?q: On an attack of opportunity you can make a melee attacka: Yes(i think this is pretty clear, no arguing here?)q: does it or does it not say, You can use a melee attack with a slashing or bludgeonig weapon to strike a weapon or shield that your opponent is holding.a: Why yes, yes it does.I've yet to see anyone argue either of those points, so we'll assume they are trueso Why cant you use your melee attack during your attack of opportunity to strike a weapon or shield?It seems both legal and right to me.Your argument, i assume, is footnote 7? These attacks substitute a melee attack part?your saying "if they would have wanted sunder to work, they would have put it in there"I disagree, Sunder in its description specifically says it substitutes a melee attack, thoseother forms of attack dont. So your deducing from the footnote *which is text* which says they replace melee attacks, that they work as such, but sunder *which sames the same thing under the sunder description, but not in the footnote* doesntLike i said, it says under sunder it does just that, its only specified for the other attacks because they are special forms of attacks alltogeather with opposed rolls. Its stated that they replace melee attacks, because it doesnt state that in thier description, like it does with sunder.Most people i argue this with state that yeah you can use it as one or all of your attacksin a full round action because it replaces an attack. But thats the same as what im saying, otherwise your telling me that you can only ever use a sunder as a standard action, meaning you get 1 attack which is a sunder a turn *which is nothing like what is written under the sunder description*pretty big assumption i think, that even tho the text states you can use it as a melee attack that since the table labels it as a standard action you cant use it in place of your melee attack on an attack of opportunityEdit: Dont want to thread jack here, so if you wanna continue on this hyp, i'll debate with you in a new thread, but lets not continue here</blockquote>

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