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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 6867425" data-attributes="member: 413">This is my general rule of thumb.  Think about shocking grasp and something more meaningful like hellish rebuke.  I probably would not allow a moster to use a cantrip to supress the walock player's kewl spell.  But if a PC is facing a monster with a similar ability and cleverly comes up with using shocking grasp I'll likely allow it.But that's because my players are not the rules lawyer sort or the optimizer sort.  So thwy wont take that ruling and use it against another ruling later.  As a DM I consider it one of my jobs to make sure the players get some opportunity to use the fun stuff their PCs can do and I try to avoid seeming to pull stuff out of  the ether that denies them that.</blockquote>