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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 6879631" data-attributes="member: 16814">There's no inconsistency unless you're insisting on a specific timing, a timing that doesn't exist in the rules. Uncanny Dodge does exactly what it says on the tin, no more or less.  When you get hit, you reduce damage.  Since Uncanny Dodge has no language regarding timing, it goes after the hit.  This means that the effect's of the hit go first.  Now, Uncanny Dodge does have specific language regarding damage from the hit, so it modifies the damage created by th e hit before it's applied:  UD has specific wording on timing there -- it goes after the hit but before damage is applied.  There's no issue with damaged caused unconsciousness because UD's timing is clear that it intercepts th he damage after its generated but before it's applied.Since it goes after the hit but before damage is applied, Shocking Grasp shorts out Uncanny Dodge because the rider effect is applied before UD goes off, preventing UD.  5e works (for the most part) if you just do what it says.  I came to this realization during the dispel thread.  You don't need a fixed timing for UD and Shocking Grasp is you just do what they say and apply the reactions usually after their trigger rule for the occasional timing issue.</blockquote>