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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 6879832" data-attributes="member: 58197">Order of operations has nothing to do with this. There is one operation taking place - subtraction. The operation has either been performed or it hasn't.The hit also carries a "deals 1d8 damage" rider. Both damage and reaction denial are effects of the hit.There are two ways you can look at shocking grasp:1. Being hit and applying the effects of the hit are two distinct events. In this case, UD does not interrupt the trigger (being hit) but happens after it, before effects are applied. Since effects have not yet been applied, reaction denial hasn't happened and UD can be used.2. Being hit and applying the effects of the hit are a single event. In this case, per the DMG, UD must interrupt the triggering event, since the event includes damage and UD reduces that damage. Since reaction denial is part of the same event, reaction denial is also being interrupted, and UD can be used.What you're proposing is that (being hit and applying the non-damage effects of the hit) constitutes one event, and (applying the damage of the hit) is another event. That's a bizarre view with no basis in the rules that I can see. Either the hit is a distinct event from its effects, or it isn't; and either way you can use UD.</blockquote>