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<blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 137484" data-attributes="member: 1118">Again, it will only occur if someone has just completed a Full Round Action and then took a 5ft step into your line of sight.&nbsp; It really wouldn't come up any other time.If someone had a spellcaster 30ft in front of them and he decided to trigger on &quot;I attack the first person to come within 25ft of me&quot; and then the spellcaster spontaneously casts a maximized magic missle at him and then stepped up 5ft (to within 25ft) AFTER the spell was cast and the damage determined it doesn't make sense to have the defender roll to hit before the spell was cast (and thus possibly disrupt it).&nbsp; For all intents and purposes, in the above scenario the spellcaster had finished his actions for the round before the readied action was triggered so why would it now occur before?Yes, I know that readied actions occur just before the action that triggered them and that's why they move to just before the target in the initiative count. I have no problem with that in most cirumstances, but in the above one I do.In the above scenario the archer probably would have picked a different trigger for the readied action - &quot;If he starts casting a spell&quot; - and then he would be ahead of the spellcaster in the initiative count.Thus, I say again, I think the only time this houserule would come into play is if someone moved into someone's line of sight after taking a Full Round Action.&nbsp; Something that's not going to occur very often, and if it did it would make no sense at all that the readying character's initiative would move to just ahead of the creature that just FINISHED it's actions for the round.If a spellcaster moved 20ft around a corner and started casting a spell I would still consider that there was enough of that initiative count remaining (the spellcaster hasn't completed his action for the round yet unlike the Full Round Action + 5ft) that the readied action would be treated as normal and the archer would go just ahead of the spellcaster in the initiative count.IceBear</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IceBear, post: 137484, member: 1118"] Again, it will only occur if someone has just completed a Full Round Action and then took a 5ft step into your line of sight. It really wouldn't come up any other time. If someone had a spellcaster 30ft in front of them and he decided to trigger on "I attack the first person to come within 25ft of me" and then the spellcaster spontaneously casts a maximized magic missle at him and then stepped up 5ft (to within 25ft) AFTER the spell was cast and the damage determined it doesn't make sense to have the defender roll to hit before the spell was cast (and thus possibly disrupt it). For all intents and purposes, in the above scenario the spellcaster had finished his actions for the round before the readied action was triggered so why would it now occur before? Yes, I know that readied actions occur just before the action that triggered them and that's why they move to just before the target in the initiative count. I have no problem with that in most cirumstances, but in the above one I do. In the above scenario the archer probably would have picked a different trigger for the readied action - "If he starts casting a spell" - and then he would be ahead of the spellcaster in the initiative count. Thus, I say again, I think the only time this houserule would come into play is if someone moved into someone's line of sight after taking a Full Round Action. Something that's not going to occur very often, and if it did it would make no sense at all that the readying character's initiative would move to just ahead of the creature that just FINISHED it's actions for the round. If a spellcaster moved 20ft around a corner and started casting a spell I would still consider that there was enough of that initiative count remaining (the spellcaster hasn't completed his action for the round yet unlike the Full Round Action + 5ft) that the readied action would be treated as normal and the archer would go just ahead of the spellcaster in the initiative count. IceBear [/QUOTE]

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