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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6279605" data-attributes="member: 2011">I don't follow your logic. The rules here explicitly state that the move portion can only be towards the target and the MBA (or bull rush) can only be against the same target.What you are claiming is that the standard actions that include attacks are not themselves attacks which doesn't really make sense:Aid Another. Not an attack because although the standard action includes the attack roll of an attack power, the action itself is not an attack power (like Basic Attack).Bull Rush. Not an attack because although the standard action includes an attack roll, the action itself is not an attack power.Charge.  Not an attack because although the standard action can include an attack power, the action itself is not an attack power.Coup De Grace.  Not an attack because although the standard action includes an attack power, the action itself is not an attack power.Grab.  Not an attack because although the standard action includes an attack roll, the action itself is not an attack power.Opportunity Attack.  Not an attack because although the standard action includes an attack power, the action itself is not an attack power.Ready.  Not an attack because although the standard action can include an attack power, the action itself is not an attack power.Sorry, none of these make sense from an interpretation POV. All of these standard actions are attacks. If they include an attack roll to hit or they use an attack power, they are an attack. Aid Another is just as much an attack as Basic Attack is. The results are just different.Example: Cleric uses Astral Seal. Rogue uses Aid Another. If the Rogue hits with his Aid Another attack, he gets the hit points from the Astral Seal.All of these standard actions are just special rules about the attack that limit or enhance the attack. It's still an attack.And if an action includes movement, a Readied action can interrupt it.Finally, there are two only standard actions that fall into your category of an attack must be an attack power: Basic Attack and Use a Power. But there is nothing special about either of these in the rules that preclude other standard actions from being attacks.Also, I don't think that you have a rules quote for your claim that "only powers can be attacks". A grab is an attack. It's just not an attack that requires an attack power. I could claim "That is exceedingly plain  from any reasonable reading of the rules". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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