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<blockquote data-quote="DanmarLOK" data-source="post: 4680918" data-attributes="member: 71480"><p>Hmm again I'd just go by RAW which only let's you ready an action based on an enemies action. The rogue can't base his ready action on gaining a bonus, nor on an ally casting a spell. Getting hit is not an action. Do you see a way he could cheese a way to get the bonus twice when he can only ready an action based on an enemy action?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That seems to rule out "I attack when the cleric casts the spell", "I attack when I get the bonus.", "I attack when the enemy is hit." , "I use the power when the rogue moves next to the creature." None of those work because it's not based on an action by the enemy. The enemy can't react (under normal circumstances) during the cleric's turn so the rogue can't go during the cleric's turn and end up in initiative order before the cleric he can only go during an enemy turn and end up in front of that enemy in the initiative order. </p><p></p><p>So to look at your specific examples - </p><p></p><p>Rogue: I ready power A against monster B after the Cleric attacks B. (ends turn)</p><p>(any number of intervening players and/or monsters)</p><p></p><p><em>Can't do this because he's basing his ready on an allies actions - </em></p><p></p><p>Cleric: I attack monster B (and hit), giving a power bonus to the Rogue until the end of my next turn.</p><p></p><p>Rogue: I interrupt the Cleric's turn and take my readied action with the power bonus. (this moves the Rogue into order immediately ahead of the cleric).</p><p></p><p><em>Can't do this because again he's basing his ready on the cleric's actions. </em></p><p></p><p></p><p>The other example: </p><p></p><p>Cleric: I ready Righteous Brand for when the Rogue is next to X.</p><p></p><p>Can't do this because cleric is readying action based on rogue's actions which is again not an enemy.</p><p></p><p>Rogue (moves next to X).</p><p> </p><p>Cleric: (uses readied action)</p><p></p><p><em>Isn't triggered by an allies actions. </em></p><p></p><p>Rogue: attacks with power. </p><p></p><p></p><p>In a complete aside if you're having these kinds of problems with your players that you need to house rule this kind of cheese well you have my condolences. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DanmarLOK, post: 4680918, member: 71480"] Hmm again I'd just go by RAW which only let's you ready an action based on an enemies action. The rogue can't base his ready action on gaining a bonus, nor on an ally casting a spell. Getting hit is not an action. Do you see a way he could cheese a way to get the bonus twice when he can only ready an action based on an enemy action? That seems to rule out "I attack when the cleric casts the spell", "I attack when I get the bonus.", "I attack when the enemy is hit." , "I use the power when the rogue moves next to the creature." None of those work because it's not based on an action by the enemy. The enemy can't react (under normal circumstances) during the cleric's turn so the rogue can't go during the cleric's turn and end up in initiative order before the cleric he can only go during an enemy turn and end up in front of that enemy in the initiative order. So to look at your specific examples - Rogue: I ready power A against monster B after the Cleric attacks B. (ends turn) (any number of intervening players and/or monsters) [I]Can't do this because he's basing his ready on an allies actions - [/I] Cleric: I attack monster B (and hit), giving a power bonus to the Rogue until the end of my next turn. Rogue: I interrupt the Cleric's turn and take my readied action with the power bonus. (this moves the Rogue into order immediately ahead of the cleric). [I]Can't do this because again he's basing his ready on the cleric's actions. [/I] The other example: Cleric: I ready Righteous Brand for when the Rogue is next to X. Can't do this because cleric is readying action based on rogue's actions which is again not an enemy. Rogue (moves next to X). Cleric: (uses readied action) [I]Isn't triggered by an allies actions. [/I] Rogue: attacks with power. In a complete aside if you're having these kinds of problems with your players that you need to house rule this kind of cheese well you have my condolences. :( [/QUOTE]
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