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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 8252039" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>[USER=85555]@Bedrockgames[/USER] , I think it's one thing to be unenthusiastic about how the setting is changing and quite another to be a polemic about it. A lot of your arguments have boiled down to "that's not part of the black box, therefore it doesn't count." It's hard to discuss changes and weaknesses of the setting because in your heart you have determined that the original presentation is free of sin and only later material has corrupted it. </p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, it's not a uncommon belief. You see it with people who argue the 84 Greyhawk folio was Gygax's true vision before it was corrupted by the From the Ashes box. Or Dragonlance beyond the Dragons of Summer Flame. Outside of gaming, I've interacted with people who refuse to accept any Star Wars movies beyond 1983 as legitimate, including the 97 special editions. Or Doctor Who fans who don't accept anything beyond the original run that ended in 89. (The legitimacy of McGann's 8th and Ecccleston's 9th Doctors were rejected for years following the revivals). </p><p></p><p>At a certain point, it stops being worth it to try to defend the small, "pure" original vision. As you said, you become outnumbered. Feel free to discuss the setting and disagree, but I think the notion that Ravenloft should not change or that the changes are illegitimate or a betrayal is a losing one.</p><p></p><p>Nobody wants to end up being diaglo arguing that "OD&D (1974) is the only true version of D&D; all others editions are pale imitations of the original."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 8252039, member: 7635"] [USER=85555]@Bedrockgames[/USER] , I think it's one thing to be unenthusiastic about how the setting is changing and quite another to be a polemic about it. A lot of your arguments have boiled down to "that's not part of the black box, therefore it doesn't count." It's hard to discuss changes and weaknesses of the setting because in your heart you have determined that the original presentation is free of sin and only later material has corrupted it. Unfortunately, it's not a uncommon belief. You see it with people who argue the 84 Greyhawk folio was Gygax's true vision before it was corrupted by the From the Ashes box. Or Dragonlance beyond the Dragons of Summer Flame. Outside of gaming, I've interacted with people who refuse to accept any Star Wars movies beyond 1983 as legitimate, including the 97 special editions. Or Doctor Who fans who don't accept anything beyond the original run that ended in 89. (The legitimacy of McGann's 8th and Ecccleston's 9th Doctors were rejected for years following the revivals). At a certain point, it stops being worth it to try to defend the small, "pure" original vision. As you said, you become outnumbered. Feel free to discuss the setting and disagree, but I think the notion that Ravenloft should not change or that the changes are illegitimate or a betrayal is a losing one. Nobody wants to end up being diaglo arguing that "OD&D (1974) is the only true version of D&D; all others editions are pale imitations of the original." [/QUOTE]
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