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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 8252483"><p>The Thing is one of my favorite movies. I haven't read the 1938 book, but am aware of it being a remake of the 1951 movie (like I said I like old horror films). The thing is classic. There might even be a way to do the thing in Ravenloft (just like how they used Alien as an adventure seed). But I don't think it was the kind of movie they had in mind when they laid out the gothic and classic horror foundation fo the setting. I tend to agree with their more narrow framing of classic horror for the purposes of what Ravenloft ought to be. That doesn't mean I would exclude the Thing from a list of classic horror movies. I would just be sure, if I did it in Ravenloft, to fit it to the Gothic feel at least. </p><p></p><p>And again there are outliers in Ravenloft. The Book of Crypts has a living wall for example, which to me always felt more modern ( a bit clive barker). But it worked. I think here or there its going to be fine if you aren't watering down the premise of the setting. It is the carving up of the setting specifically into subgenres of horror, that I think deviates radically from the concept (I would call this the TORG-ifying of Ravenloft, where the conceit of the domains---which is used to create a patchwork of different sources of inspiration---is now being used to create a patchwork of subgenres). Again, that might be a great setting. Maybe D&D players really want a setting where you are in Dracula one minute, the Thing the next, and then slide into a Cronenberg setting. I am not saying that concept isn't cool (it is cool: like I said, I liked TORG). But it isn't Ravenloft. Ravenloft was specifically gothic horror and classic horror, and this didn't change until after it left TSR's hands (even DoD still cleaved tot he gothic roots even if it allowed for more dark fantasy). To me this is like taking the IP for Dracula to make a movie based on Interview with the Vampire. It just doesn't connect to what the setting was all about at all (in many ways it is the opposite of what the setting was all about because it is embracing more modern subgenres of horror)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 8252483"] The Thing is one of my favorite movies. I haven't read the 1938 book, but am aware of it being a remake of the 1951 movie (like I said I like old horror films). The thing is classic. There might even be a way to do the thing in Ravenloft (just like how they used Alien as an adventure seed). But I don't think it was the kind of movie they had in mind when they laid out the gothic and classic horror foundation fo the setting. I tend to agree with their more narrow framing of classic horror for the purposes of what Ravenloft ought to be. That doesn't mean I would exclude the Thing from a list of classic horror movies. I would just be sure, if I did it in Ravenloft, to fit it to the Gothic feel at least. And again there are outliers in Ravenloft. The Book of Crypts has a living wall for example, which to me always felt more modern ( a bit clive barker). But it worked. I think here or there its going to be fine if you aren't watering down the premise of the setting. It is the carving up of the setting specifically into subgenres of horror, that I think deviates radically from the concept (I would call this the TORG-ifying of Ravenloft, where the conceit of the domains---which is used to create a patchwork of different sources of inspiration---is now being used to create a patchwork of subgenres). Again, that might be a great setting. Maybe D&D players really want a setting where you are in Dracula one minute, the Thing the next, and then slide into a Cronenberg setting. I am not saying that concept isn't cool (it is cool: like I said, I liked TORG). But it isn't Ravenloft. Ravenloft was specifically gothic horror and classic horror, and this didn't change until after it left TSR's hands (even DoD still cleaved tot he gothic roots even if it allowed for more dark fantasy). To me this is like taking the IP for Dracula to make a movie based on Interview with the Vampire. It just doesn't connect to what the setting was all about at all (in many ways it is the opposite of what the setting was all about because it is embracing more modern subgenres of horror) [/QUOTE]
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