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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7140824" data-attributes="member: 42582">[MENTION=85870]innerdude[/MENTION]I'm not actually a DW GM, and so can't give answers based on DW experience. So I'll just reply to your last question, based on my experiences with BW and the non-combat aspects of 4e.This issue of fairly adjudicating the fiction is an important element in BW and 4e (especially the non-combat/improv parts of 4e). My general advice would be:* If the players have a firm view of how the fiction works (eg how magic portals work; how to build a "tank trap" that will slow goblin warg riders; etc) then let them run with it and adjudicate in accordance with "say 'yes' or roll the dice". Instead of blocking the player idea at the conception/framing stage, let the failure results do that. (And of course let them have their successes if they get them.) * If you, as GM, have some idea about a nice twist you would like to have happen, use that as your consequence for failure. You don't need to fiat to get it in there, because in these sorts of games failure results will come up. * If you have to narrate a failure, and you didn't have some preconceived idea, poke your player, but in a nice way. What I mean by that is that you should go to something they care about, but don't wreck it or invalidate it. Make them realise that it was worthwhile for them to engage with that bit of the fiction (eg you noticed they have some family in their PC backstory) and make a threat to that part of the focus of play. Instead of backstory, this can be as simple as putting some bit of gear (the "pudding diving rod", or a shield or weapon) into jeopardy.Summarising the above (and you probably don't need to be told this, but I'll say it anyway): reverse all the traditional ideas (from Gygax, KotDT, GM advice books etc) that suggest players need to be kept on a tight leash or they'll wreck the place. Give the players free rein, and let their PCs and their "stuff" be the focus; but use those failure results to push back and make them wish they'd rolled better.</blockquote>

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