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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Paul Grogan" data-source="post: 3477479" data-attributes="member: 45445">After a short break, I'm back.  And still dont have a complete solution to this problem, and the more different responses we get, I'm beginning to think there isnt one.I think one of the things everyone agrees upon is that you cant ready actions outside of an initiative sequence, and I agree with that too.To avoid confusion, here is a new example, with dwarves and elves.  The dwarves are in a room, the door is closed.  They know the elves are coming for definite, they hear them right outside the door.  They have loaded crossbows pointing at the door and they have had plenty of time.  The elves know that there may be dwarves in there, and are ready for a fight.  They open the door.Do the dwarves get a surprise round?ORIs this the point at which initiative is rolled?I'm not sure there are any other options.  The problem is that option 1 means the dwarves could potentially get 2 attacks if they win the initiative once the surprise round is over.  And option 2 means that the elves could rush in and whack the dwarves before they get a shot off.And both of these situations are ones which myself and all my players want to avoid.Thanks again to everyone for their help.</blockquote>