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<blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 688767" data-attributes="member: 4134">You want to tell me you took Hypersmurfs &nbsp;at face value? I'm not him, but I dare to make the assumtion that he was less than serious about that line. I even dare to say he was being sarcastic.Yes. Adapted to circumstance is the right thing to do. Not throw them overboard. The rules explicitly state that there are never no readied actions outside combat. If they ware short-sighted and forgot about people being surprised, I'd say that you need some fixing, but they presented to us a perfectly good way to handle thisThat situation is handled easily, without disregarding the rules: as soon as the PC's open the door, combat (with initiative) starts, and the rogues get their surprise round. They can fire right away, or they can ready an action to &quot;shoot as soon as anyone of them opens hostilities&quot;. Now the party strolls in, oblivious to to the unseen threat (unless they get their spot check or some such) and the rogues are first. That's how it works for surprise rounds: no initiative for the unaware.Sure, he was right, but he didn't share your opinion, and so he must be a jerk. Nice attitude.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kae'Yoss, post: 688767, member: 4134"] You want to tell me you took Hypersmurfs at face value? I'm not him, but I dare to make the assumtion that he was less than serious about that line. I even dare to say he was being sarcastic. [B][/B] Yes. Adapted to circumstance is the right thing to do. Not throw them overboard. The rules explicitly state that there are never no readied actions outside combat. If they ware short-sighted and forgot about people being surprised, I'd say that you need some fixing, but they presented to us a perfectly good way to handle this [B][/B] That situation is handled easily, without disregarding the rules: as soon as the PC's open the door, combat (with initiative) starts, and the rogues get their surprise round. They can fire right away, or they can ready an action to "shoot as soon as anyone of them opens hostilities". Now the party strolls in, oblivious to to the unseen threat (unless they get their spot check or some such) and the rogues are first. That's how it works for surprise rounds: no initiative for the unaware. [B][/B] Sure, he was right, but he didn't share your opinion, and so he must be a jerk. Nice attitude. [/QUOTE]

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